XI-2 was released this past September, or didn't you notice?

[zaviermhigo]

You know in today's society people don't like partying as much right? I guess, i still love it and will do it. I just wish that for those who don't really want to find a party all day, they would have quests or some sort of content that would situate people of certain levels in certain places, so you're doing quests all day you end up at the hub and bam, you find a party just from being there and talking to people. The core of an mmo will always be socializing and doing stuff with others, hell thats an over arching theme in japanese media alone, so their games will be more group centric and I like that. But a game that wants people to group shouldn't make grouping something you have to go out of your way to do, it should be natural, and I feel like games that aren't even group centric are doing a better job at leading people into groups than FF is right now.

Even with FFXI grouping was sort of something you went out of your way for if you hit the game at a later point, and with this game I'm still fearing that same thing "if you join this game 3 years down the road its a harder path to max level for you because we don't know how to keep our beginning areas revitalized for old players"

So whether this is XI-2, or its just XIV, they need to learn the good and the bad from XI, and instead it feels like "OH XI DIDN'T EXIST", Japanese companies do this all the time, "you like Resident Evil outbreak? REALLY? That was a niche game, our next game is going to appeal to western market and not to westerners who liked our previous games made for japanese markets" "oh I thought you guys like streamlined games after looking at Mass Effect 2, but then I guess we should of waited to streamline XIII until after the results of the bioware streamlining came back to hit them in the face." Seriously, they just forget about the people who actually liked their games, whether we're niche or not, and then they make a half assed westernization that the true western idiots don't like, and the niche gamers feel alienated by. Stick to your guns, make games that we like and don't alienate your main player base!

[Khal_Drogo]

You know in today's society people don't like partying as much right? I guess, i still love it and will do it. I just wish that for those who don't really want to find a party all day, they would have quests or some sort of content that would situate people of certain levels in certain places, so you're doing quests all day you end up at the hub and bam, you find a party just from being there and talking to people. The core of an mmo will always be socializing and doign stuff with others, hell thats an over arching theme in japanese media alone, so there games will be more group centric and I like that. But a game that wants people to group shouldn't make grouping something you have to go out of your way to do, it should be natural, and I feel like games that aren't even group centric are doing a better job at leading people into groups than FF is right now.
Even with FFXI grouping was sort of something you went out of your way for if you hit the game at a later point, and with this game I'm still fearing that same thing "if you join this game 3 years down the road its a harder path to max level for you because we don't know how to keep our beginning areas revitalized for old players"

So whether this is XI-2, or its just XIV, they need to learn the good and the bad from XI, and instead it feels like "OH XI DIDN'T EXIST", Japanese companies do this all the time, "you like Resident Evil outbreak? REALLY? That was a niche game, our next game is going to appeal to western market and not to westerners who liked our previous games made for japanese markets" "oh I thought you guys like streamlined games after looking at Mass Effect 2, but then I guess we should of waited to streamline XIII until after the results of the bioware streamlining came back to hit them in the face." Seriously, they just forget about the people who actually liked there games, whether we're niche or not, and then they make a half assed westernization that the true western idiots don't like, and the niche gamers feel alienated by. Stick to your guns, make games that we like and don't alienate your main player base!

Thank you for that Zavier. Even Hitler understands the value of making good games, and keeping your player base happy lol...

Hitler Plays XIV Pre-patch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLppb80xYc


Hitler Learns about FFXI Lvl99 Cap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCj9hbnGmio

[Zenaku]

You know in today's society people don't like partying as much right? I guess, i still love it and will do it. I just wish that for those who don't really want to find a party all day, they would have quests or some sort of content that would situate people of certain levels in certain places, so you're doing quests all day you end up at the hub and bam, you find a party just from being there and talking to people. The core of an mmo will always be socializing and doing stuff with others, hell thats an over arching theme in japanese media alone, so their games will be more group centric and I like that. But a game that wants people to group shouldn't make grouping something you have to go out of your way to do, it should be natural, and I feel like games that aren't even group centric are doing a better job at leading people into groups than FF is right now.

Even with FFXI grouping was sort of something you went out of your way for if you hit the game at a later point, and with this game I'm still fearing that same thing "if you join this game 3 years down the road its a harder path to max level for you because we don't know how to keep our beginning areas revitalized for old players"

So whether this is XI-2, or its just XIV, they need to learn the good and the bad from XI, and instead it feels like "OH XI DIDN'T EXIST", Japanese companies do this all the time, "you like Resident Evil outbreak? REALLY? That was a niche game, our next game is going to appeal to western market and not to westerners who liked our previous games made for japanese markets" "oh I thought you guys like streamlined games after looking at Mass Effect 2, but then I guess we should of waited to streamline XIII until after the results of the bioware streamlining came back to hit them in the face." Seriously, they just forget about the people who actually liked their games, whether we're niche or not, and then they make a half assed westernization that the true western idiots don't like, and the niche gamers feel alienated by. Stick to your guns, make games that we like and don't alienate your main player base!

went out of your way? I can make a party in ffxi around/before whitegate within 10min then get everyone to camp within 30min so 40min or less setting up ok i see the pain in the ass there but then you can be there for hours. People who don't want to party should really think about it.

back on the solo topic
If there 3-4 people around you doing the same thing at the same level why the hell not party together? this is where the solo people are pissing me off. I understand you don't want to waste your time setting up a party but if there 3-5 people around you doing the same thing at the same level why do you people not want to party with them?

[Kam]

If there 3-4 people around you doing the same thing at the same level why the hell not party together? this is where the solo people are pissing me off. I understand you don't want to waste your time setting up a party but if there 3-5 people around you doing the same thing at the same level why do you people not want to party with them?

Its rare that this will ever happen with out 2 or 3 people grouping up. Not to be disrespectful. But that is a stupid debate.

And hell, even if you are on the worst sever in the world where everyone likes to solo in the exact same spot. YOU should be the one to go find a new spot - and take yer' pals too.

innovate man.

[weeble]

Its rare that this will ever happen with out 2 or 3 people grouping up. Not to be disrespectful. But that is a stupid debate.

no this happens alot, it was happening even all way at the doblyn era too, 2-3people camping over each other rather then grouping up and going to kill ants. and i also gave examples of this happening in other mmo's where all the leader types or people who are motivated to make groups are missing from the environment.

[Kam]

no this happens alot, it was happening even all way at the doblyn era too, 2-3people camping over each other rather then grouping up and going to kill ants. and i also gave examples of this happening in other mmo's where all the leader types or people who are motivated to make groups are missing from the environment.

I edited my post to give a more balanced view, and even if you read that and I was quoted out of context....

Then what the hell are you still doing fighting doblyns?? why not find new spots to solo and party at since 1.18? (and before).
I solo in several spots where no one is around, and inform my ls about them all the time. half the game is empty after all.

[weeble]

I edited my post to give a more balanced view, and even if you read that and I was quoted out of context....

Then what the hell are you still doing fighting doblyns?? why not find new spots to solo and party at since 1.18? (and before).
I solo in several spots where no one is around, and inform my ls about them all the time. half the game is empty after all.

i don't solo, i will quit game b4 i ever solo grind in this game. also i'm all 50 on all dow and dom ...all threw 8man leves by the way. if grinding won't be for party play over solo then there are tons of new mmo's comming that didn't flash 15man runs on me then take them away so there is no way i'm paying a penny to se for it.

also what i said doesn't make it not right, my statements are 100% correct, why are u chosing the twist my words or like picking like 3words from a full thread that u think u can argue over and railroad the rest of the post witch was 100%. doblyns were then, but it still happens now like i said and like others have stated, and like i have stated about even other mmo's that have solo players. i saw the edit ..it doesn't change my statements.

[Keith_Dragoon]

i don't solo, i will quit game b4 i ever solo grind in this game

I think me amd Weeble's heart just fused into one, I've been saying this in EVERY MMO I have played since as far as I can remember, its my code!

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

back on the solo topic
If there 3-4 people around you doing the same thing at the same level why the hell not party together? this is where the solo people are pissing me off. I understand you don't want to waste your time setting up a party but if there 3-5 people around you doing the same thing at the same level why do you people not want to party with them?

Well maybe I'll be online for 15 mins and I want to kill a couple of enemies without joining a PT then quitting a few mins later or I want to play at my own pace without having to rush around because some people just move enemy to enemy or I don't feel like talking to people today and I just want to relax and do my own thing.