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  1. #231
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    Sunako's Avatar
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    It is pretty hard imagine the best rotation since you do not know how long animation times are. Like can you use tri disaster + fester + painflare + energy drain + wyrm stance in the same global.
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  2. #232
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    You can still have a buffed Deathflare in the opening, now... Contagion'd DoTs....why cant you just use Tri - D when DWS is up to clip all the current DoTs and then Contagion later? Clipping these Dots doesn't hurt you because that is a free oGCD to reapply no? Or am I looking at this wrong?

    Idk somehow I don't think that 10% from DWT is gonna be that decisive of a boost to wait out Raging Strikes and Pot usage from all the skills prior to going into DWT.
    How can I have a buffed Deathflare in the opening ? If you used RS+Int pre pull, your deathflare won't be buffed by either unless you use it as soon as you enter DWS, which is obviously not ideal since you will be missing out on the 10% damage increase+ Ruin 3s. And while clipping the DoTs can work, I find that having buffed Ruin 3s+2x Festers + Deathflare is better than having buffed Fester+ED+Painflare.
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    Kairi™

  3. #233
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Avalen Koma
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    How can I have a buffed Deathflare in the opening ? If you used RS+Int pre pull, your deathflare won't be buffed by either unless you use it as soon as you enter DWS, which is obviously not ideal since you will be missing out on the 10% damage increase+ Ruin 3s. And while clipping the DoTs can work, I find that having buffed Ruin 3s+2x Festers + Deathflare is better than having buffed Fester+ED+Painflare.
    The opening I was thinking of is uh..

    Shadowflare before pull -> Raging -> Ruin I -> Ruin II -> Pot-> Tri - D -> (assuming all Dots apply immediately) -> Fester -> Ruin II -> Pain Flare (possibly used with Fester in one GCD if you are pushing the GCD with pot + Tri -D) -> Ruin II -> ED -> DWT + AF -> Ruin III -> Ruin III -> Swift Shadow -> (Fester -> DeathFlare ) Pot and raging fall off after Deathflare.

    Something like that.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 06-19-2015 at 05:26 AM.

  4. #234
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    The opening I was thinking of is uh..

    Shadowflare before pull -> Raging -> Ruin I -> Ruin II -> Pot-> Tri - D -> (assuming all Dots apply immediately) -> Fester -> Ruin II -> Pain Flare -> Ruin II -> ED -> DWT + AF -> Ruin III -> Ruin III -> Swift Shadow -> (DeathFlare -> Fester ) Pot and raging fall off after this Fester.

    Something like that.
    I don't think you will get the full 10% damage increase duration with that, but again, it might not be worth it so I don't know, guess I am just gonna have to wait and test it out first.
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    Kairi™

  5. #235
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Avalen Koma
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    Basically everyone needs to rush to 60 asap before we can figure out a new opener. All I know is too many things in the opener now. Also have to think about Garuda vs Ifrit in the opener again. While DWT certainly boosts SMN DPS via Contagioning stronger DoTs, Radiant shield is pretty OP with 50 potency for every time a nearby party member receives damage? That's potency right there with auto attacks from the boss on the main tank.

    Pretty sure 50 potency per auto attack, will offset the 10% potency from Contagion'd DWT DoTs by alot.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 06-19-2015 at 05:33 AM.

  6. #236
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    ......Dungeon Pulls.....6 mobs. Rouse/Spur Radiant Shield lmao.
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  7. 06-19-2015 05:57 AM

  8. #237
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    Meleoffs's Avatar
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    Adreius Niluez
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    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...eview?sle=true

    Nice bit of theorycrafting on Reddit, credit to /u/Haisquared
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  9. #238
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    Avalen Koma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meleoffs View Post
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...eview?sle=true

    Nice bit of theorycrafting on Reddit, credit to /u/Haisquared
    I definitely agree there is still too much information we don't know about to properly map out an opener entirely. Once people get to 60, I intend on making a DPS spreadsheet on how much potency we can get in an opener and we can figure it out better.

    Just a lot...of stuff... to keep track of....
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 06-19-2015 at 06:38 AM.

  10. #239
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    Shamirah's Avatar
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    Moogle
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    Be ready to get all those BLM rerolling to SMN. It will be fun.
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  11. #240
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    Be ready to get all those BLM rerolling to SMN. It will be fun.
    don't forget to add the, 'why does my pet keep dieing?' question from em, or even the 'why can't i just set it and forget it?' from more than likely fresh faces to the game itself. XD
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