Holy and Flare diminishing returns nerf

[Malevicton]

BLM's absolutely DESTROY in AoE right now, and diminishing returns to Flare doesn't surprise me at all. Right now you can Swiftcast, Covert, hardcast, use a potion and hardcast a third Flare for a total of 780 AoE potency in a mere matter of seconds

Not a terrible point, but also I like how you're telling people to l2play but didn't account for astral fire, one of the most basic blm mechanics Triple flare is currently 1404 effective potency

[Urielparadox]

I am not an aoe blm and i have no problems with the flair adjustments just sucks that dungeon times will be slower. They also stated when over geared dungeons should take 15min which I'm good with. Bliz 4 only exsist to extend eonichan, in my post it states eonichin only exsist for fire 4 and Bliz 4. If they change eonichin to do more then that obviously makes Bliz 4 a more viable spell and would mean I dont have an issue with it. However SE has given us no such info and i have seen no e3 pics of it so I can only conclude that it does nothing else. So Don't Even Get Snappy and put words in my mouth. What I said was unless eonichin does something other then give us fire 4/Bliz 4 then Bliz 4 is a worthless skill. If they change eonichan and it does something else then that means I'm agreeing to Bliz 4 being a good spell. This is called logic. By the way the drg ability powers up their jumps.

[Odett]

Not a terrible point, but also I like how you're telling people to l2play but didn't account for astral fire, one of the most basic blm mechanics Triple flare is currently 1404 effective potency

That was a mistake I soon noticed :P and quickly edited my post, which just further proves how insane triple Flare is

[Edellis]

Now that Enochian is no longer Lv60, does anyone actually know what it does?

We'll be using it for a whole 2 levels before we get Blizzard 4, and 4 levels before Fire IV. Which means we'll acquire it, and then have means to elongate it, but ATM nobody knows what it does.

Only allowing Bliz/Fire IV seems unlikely. Must provide some kind of damage / MP cost / utility buff.

However SE has given us no such info and i have seen no e3 pics of it so I can only conclude that it does nothing else. So Don't Even Get Snappy and put words in my mouth. What I said was unless eonichin does something other then give us fire 4/Bliz 4 then Bliz 4 is a worthless skill.

The patch notes state it's a level 56 spell, we do not even get a IV technique until after we already have Enochian. So the idea that it only allows for 2 skills (that we don't have) seems very, very, very unlikely.

[Malevicton]

That was a mistake I soon noticed :P and quickly edited my post, which just further proves how insane triple Flare is

It's absolutely insane and needed a nerf, but I wish they'd been a bit more creative about it, or just straight up renamed it to chain lightning or something. I feel like they took all the super-fun "flariness" out of it It was just so damn satisfying to finish up a super long cast and watch everything explode into smithereens!

All the opportunities for rebalance that an xpac brings and the best they can do is smack away at it with the nerf hammer

[Odett]

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It's a totally viable spell though, because you can use it to keep Enochian from falling off, therefore letting you keep using Fire 4s. It's not useless BECAUSE you have to use it in order to keep Enochian from falling off.

[Urielparadox]

You didn't read, it's only viableonce we get to lvl 60 unless it has a secondary effect that they have kept hush hush on. As I stated. I never once said at lvl 60 it's not worthwhile. At lvl 60 it has plenty of use, I'm referring to as we are lvl ing not at lvl 60

[Malevicton]

You didn't read, it's only viable at lvl 60 unless it has a secondary effect that they have kept hush hush on. As I stated. I never once said at lvl 60 it's not worthwhile. I just dislike a rotation inside a rotation. I'm referring to as we are lvl ing not at lvl 60

supposedly it has a passive dmg buff, but i have yet to track down the source on that

[Odett]

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Honestly the main reason it doesn't bother me is because I'm not a fan of AoE. Mass chain pulling reduces my rotation to Fire 2 spam and Flare, or Doom Spike, or Death Blossom+ Katon or Doton depending on the situation, or Holy (and so on), and anything to discourage that is a welcome addition by me, because that's boring as hell. It's one of the reasons why I let out a sigh when I queue up as a SCH for something and have to spend my time constantly healing a tank that chain pulls and doesn't use cooldowns (I don't refuse to do this, of course, that's my job as a healer), but I could be helping a hell of a lot more if you pulled a little less and let me DPS to make things go faster.

[Urielparadox]

If It's A Buff To Astral fire buff that would be awsome