Holy and Flare diminishing returns nerf

[Hyouretsuzan]

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According to the patch notes, the only skills that are gonna be changed up for Dragoon is Heavy Thrust, Life Surge, and Plebotomize. Don't think Dragonfire Dive needs to be changed seeing how you can't exactly use that skill all the time.

[Viridiana]

with assize being stronger than current flare (with mp restoration).

Your math is very wrong. Assize would never beat current Flare unless the Flare is being cast unbuffed or under Umbral Ice, which is why you don't do that. If it were under even AFI, it would be stronger than Assize will ever be for damage.

For nerfed Flare under AFIII, which is what you'll most often cast it with, it still beats Assize at 10 mobs. At 11 mobs, Assize wins by 24 potency, and wins by an additional 66 potency per mob past the 11th.

Numbers:

Flare=260 base x 1.8 for AFIII, -10% per mob after the first, minimum 50%

468+421.2+374.4+327.6+280.8+(234x6)=3276 potency over 11 mobs

Assize=300 base, no multipliers or diminishing returns

300x11=3300 potency over 11 mobs

3300-3276=24 potency difference, at 11 mobs.

[mp-please]

Your math is very wrong.

Meant base skill potency since whm doesn't have the multiplier associated to astral fire.

[Viridiana]

Meant base skill potency since whm doesn't have the multiplier associated to astral fire.

So, you meant to use a situation not at all representative of actual use? Okay, then.

[Lillia]

ooo damn lol although I just thought that maybe the diminishing return would start from the 4th target onwards rather than from the 2nd.

Is dragonfire dive's aoe also reduced?

new DRG skills

[Blood-Aki]

It seems odd to reduce damage based on number of mobs when that is the entire point of the spells.

So long as they make up for it by adding more aoe spells im fine with it tho, Not that i have a choice but to accept it.

[Ceodore]

A 50% reduction in damage is a lot, yes, but that is the lowest it goes. Remember, in pulls that are upwards of 9 and 10 mobs at a time, 50% of Flare's base damage is still a hell of a lot. No, it's not what it was. Not by a long shot, but with a boost in AOE damage on Fire 2, this may be a not so subtle hint for players to try a new rotation other than Fire2, Fire2, Fire2, Fire 2, Flare. Such a boring rotation was one reason I can't stand to play the class anyways. Not that I plan to play it in the expansion either. Too busy with my tanks. Summoner and Scholar are about the only things I'll have time for, and that's just because they share their levels.

[Nadirah]

WoW's aoes, the ones that aren't flat out target capped(hits up to X number of targets, ignores all others in the area of effect) do this.

The more targets you have, the less damage per target it does.

[Kerwin]

Ouch. No longer worth the mana now. :S

[saber_alter]

Ouch. No longer worth the mana now. :S

still is. still the most powerful spell besides assize. the buff only makes mass pulls >6 mobs a little more tedious.