Holy and Flare diminishing returns nerf

[tjw]

Because we're talking about DPS here, not flat potency. Aero does it's damage over time, so it's not going to flatly deal damage. Period. In a typical pull, mobs probably won't live long enough to see the full potency land, so that extra potential is wasted.

-facepalm- I'm not taking the entirety of Aero III's damage into account. I'm taking only it's DAMAGE OVER TIME PER GCD. Did you even read what I posted before?

And unfortunately, I can't sympathise with running past content and feeling the nerf bat. Why? Because unless you're running ONLY past content, you'll no doubt be getting higher level gear that, even when level-synced, will out-perform past equipment.

I'm also very interested in why you would choose to ignore the new content and instead prioritise old content.

[Virin]

If the encounters pan out like I think they will leaving these spells alone would solidify one thing. Groups would consist of 1 pld 1 war/drk 2 Whm and 4 Blm period.

[Asierid]

People freak out as if they didn't know SE hated speed runs since day one.

It was bound to happen, not like you couldn't see it coming with all the (failed) changes to dungeons and the way we run them. We can get over it now.

[Tanthalus]

How is it that without even trying out new abilities, new dungeons, new class compositions and new tactics you are all so convinced that this is class suicide? I understand that ARR is pretty chock full of pessimists but damn this is ridiculous!
We have blms saying their ditching the class: good. If you only lean on Flare then your doing it wrong anyway.
And we have whm players saying they're going to continue to one click with Regen instead of holy: if that makes this game fun to you then go hard.
The tools are presented to us to be better in an ever changing environment. Learn to embrace the change! I can't wait to try and figure out new ways to pummel AND stay on top of my game. All the number crunching and theorycrafting will mean nothing in the coming weeks when the smart players utilize these new tricks and show the doubters how, once again, to perform.

[Gilraen]

I'm embracing the changes, but it won't change that I'm not a great healer. If my company needs me to heal, though, I'm going to be the best healer I can be. These changes to Holy won't impact me one bit. Now that Minuet, that's going to be hot.

[Greven]

Everybody please.. Take a deep breath.

[bettomendes]

I wonder if Flare will be "officially" taken into single target rotation from now on...

[Twilite]

that's why I quit playing mages. SE seems to hate DoM for some reason.

in other MMOs, mages do highest damages because they have a trade off that they have the weakest defense, lowest HP, etc. In FFXIV mages are weak in defense and now will be weak in offense too.

Flare and Holy are situational.. and were really mainly used for speed runs.. Considering at most, you can cast three flares, unless you wanna gimp it with Umbral Ice, you have to go through 3-4 slow as molassis Fire IIs first. BLMs are still deadly while in Astral Fire III, and SE has no reason to nerf the other spells. I don't know about Holy, but Flare doesn't define the BLM job. It's not the end of the world.

-From a BLM.

[deos]

guess i should post it here too

WHM holy nerf


also, BLM flare nerf

[TriksteR]

What about fire 4/blizzard 4, are they going to be AoE [?] I'm curious to see the ''new'' blm rotation.