...lame nerf is all I got to say. I guess smn, drg, brd with a sch as a healer will be your dungeon speed runner classes now.
...lame nerf is all I got to say. I guess smn, drg, brd with a sch as a healer will be your dungeon speed runner classes now.
Last edited by Isius; 06-18-2015 at 08:38 PM.
Here's a interesting question. Why bother making both magic aoe at all? Traditionally in FF they are both single target magic abilities.
https://youtu.be/EIG7VvngUK4?t=3m50s
Make up your damn mind Yoshida.
that's why I quit playing mages. SE seems to hate DoM for some reason.
in other MMOs, mages do highest damages because they have a trade off that they have the weakest defense, lowest HP, etc. In FFXIV mages are weak in defense and now will be weak in offense too.
Never a mind was changed on an internet board, no matter how good your arguments are...
This is the same thing they did with the ga spells in FFXI.
90 seconds isn't long. Why do people think 1.5 minutes of a cool down is exceedingly long?
Most of the time when we get to the next pull of trash, my swiftcast is already up. That's on a 60 second cooldown. 30 extra seconds apparently hurts you so much that you cry foul?
Yes, you are over-reacting. You're making out WHM to be as pathetic as MNK is at AoE.
Also, thanks for skipping over the Aero III DoT nerf I did. In a REAL scenario, the DoT will be doing a LOT more damage. Enough that if it was its full potency per GCD, it wouldn't be a 200 potency difference but a 500 potency difference.
In fact, Aero III almost makes up for the Holy nerf, if we limit mob count to 6. With the nerf, the current Holy will do 900 Potency a GCD, compared to 1200 potency of the previous Holy. Aero III's dot is 40 a tick, making a total of 240 potency. 1200 vs 1140. That's only a 60 potency difference, not including the initial Aero III nuke damage. Since you don't see 200 potency as anything big, what's 60 potency?
Last edited by tjw; 06-18-2015 at 08:58 PM.
90s is only 1.5 minutes. So you should get it out once in any given aoe situation, which is what his calculation includes - just one use.
His example already favors the previous rotation due to the amount of mobs and how long it lasts.
I just remember doing speed runs with my drg in Brayflox hm way back, since I didn't have a blm at the time, and they went pretty, fast speed-wise. Since then I can personally output more dps with my drg then my blm with around equal ilvls, but then again my blm is using gear more suited for smns. Only problem with drg is of course tp cost. After 2 decent pulls you are normally begging for tp. xD
As for smns they can still do alright in speed running, but they are far, and few with fewer good smn players out there that can aoe decently.
But as you said blm, and whm will be more in terms with everyone else in the aoe factor.
So you are right, blms, and whms shouldn't be forgotten yet in aoe pulls
Last edited by Isius; 06-18-2015 at 09:08 PM. Reason: can't spell things been up all night, HW hype :P
Because we're talking about DPS here, not flat potency. Aero does it's damage over time, so it's not going to flatly deal damage. Period. In a typical pull, mobs probably won't live long enough to see the full potency land, so that extra potential is wasted.
Lastly, and because this is kind of a crucial point, all of this is solely reliant on post-50 skills. Anyone running existing content is effectively taking a nerf bat to the face, so that means people still working on their zodiacs or grinding poetics tomes and experience in existing dungeons. By the by, that will be most of us since Aero III and Assize aren't until level 55+.Simple. It's what most of us are going to be stuck with until we're high level enough to actually run the later dungeons and roulettes. If you're expecting to hit level 52 simply by running a few measly story quests you're even crazier than I am.
Also, I'm noticing you seem to avoid addressing Flare in your arguments. Black Mage has no other AoE to make up the difference like White Mage does, so where's your snappy come-back explaining why the changes to BLM were good and necessary?
Last edited by Lemuria; 06-18-2015 at 09:19 PM.
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