Holy and Flare diminishing returns nerf

[elemental10]

Still is worth it imo.

50% of 260 potency is still good when you put in perspective where you hit ALL the mobs around the target. Not to mention the ley lines thingy. You have to cast FLare inside so it'll be augmented or whatever it does. So the nerf was reasonable.

Holy nerf was needed as it provides an AOE 6 seconds stun lock with it too.

[Verius_Nox]

Still is worth it imo.

50% of 260 potency is still good when you put in perspective where you hit ALL the mobs around the target. Not to mention the ley lines thingy. You have to cast FLare inside so it'll be augmented or whatever it does. So the nerf was reasonable.

Holy nerf was needed as it provides an AOE 6 seconds stun lock with it too.

Ley lines is just cast speed, has no effect on flares damage.

And 130 potency for all of my mana is little for a lot.

[elemental10]

Ley lines is just cast speed, has no effect on flares damage.

And 130 potency for all of my mana is little for a lot.

Ah, I see. Still, casting Flare inside ley lines would be a good idea.

Yeah but what I said was it's 130 potency to all the enemies around the target. So, I think it's a reasonable amount considering you still hit the first target for full potency.

I rarely play as BLM but when I do, I flare a lot. I flare when the mana has only like close to 20%. Not enough to cast Fire 2 but enough to cast Fire 1. So, exchanging that Fire 1 with a big AOE is a very fair trade, given the Flare will deplete my mana.

[Verius_Nox]

Ah, I see. Still, casting Flare inside ley lines would be a good idea.

Yeah but what I said was it's 130 potency to all the enemies around the target. So, I think it's a reasonable amount considering you still hit the first target for full potency.

I rarely play as BLM but when I do, I flare a lot. I flare when the mana has only like close to 20%. Not enough to cast Fire 2 but enough to cast Fire 1. So, exchanging that Fire 1 with a big AOE is a very fair trade, given the Flare will deplete my mana.

Be more efficient now to blizzard 3 to refill mana for more fire 2 spam quicker.

Flare will now just be something you cast when convert is up.

[elemental10]

Be more efficient now to blizzard 3 to refill mana for more fire 2 spam quicker.

Flare will now just be something you cast when convert is up.

Yeah but I like Flare not just because of it's damage but because it's a big explosion.

Besides, I'm not trying to hit min/max here. And people wouldn't say no to a flare spam anyways.

Convert will always be up after I cast Flare, so no problem there. Only places where I don't actually end my spells with Flare is when I know I have to move during the next cast.

[Verius_Nox]

Yeah but I like Flare not just because of it's damage but because it's a big explosion.

Besides, I'm not trying to hit min/max here. And people wouldn't say no to a flare spam anyways.

Convert will always be up after I cast Flare, so no problem there. Only places where I don't actually end my spells with Flare is when I know I have to move during the next cast.

Gameplay wise, RIP big shiny numbers on multiple enemies making you feel like a god. Now it'll be one big number, then a bunch of wannabe numbers looking for table scraps from the bigger better number.

Think of the numbers, SE. They need homes, too.

[bettomendes]

...130 potency for all of my mana is little for a lot.

I don't think you really know when to use flare...

[Verius_Nox]

It's true, though, Flare can be your whole pool. It can also be less than 300 mp.

Also, Flare has a potency of 468 with AF3. And it only goes down to 234 potency after the sixth target.

Pretty bad to use the lowest number, which requires the higher potencies to hit for that to even happen.
Then to say you use all your mp which could be as low as 270.

Thanks, Prima Strategy Guide, for telling me hitting start begins the game.

[elemental10]

Thanks, Prima Strategy Guide, for telling me hitting start begins the game.

Now YOU'RE being an ass.

We get it, you don't like the nerf because you want to see big numbers on the screen and that's FINE. But the rest of us still see Flare as a very useful spell. Or at least I do.

[Verius_Nox]

Now YOU'RE being an ass.

We get it, you don't like the nerf because you want to see big numbers on the screen and that's FINE. But the rest of us still see Flare as a very useful spell. Or at least I do.

Fight fire with fire. Be a dick, and get it in return.

Also, I was agreeing with you on liking the spell. So not sure where your animosity is coming from.