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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    That was only what I made and it is a low rank weapon, but it discouraged me. What about Dodore doublet http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Dodore_Doublet

    mats are leather r45
    and armorcraft r40

    The craft for the doublet is r48 leather, so to make that one piece it can take months of craft ginding just to get those 2 crafts up, then what about when you want other pieces as well that means more crafts need ranking.

    So if you wanna make 1 set of gear for your rank 50 on your own you do need all crafts high rank which is more tedious than it needs to be.

    Difficulty = using the right options not forcing you to rank all crafts over months to rank 50.
    Yes it is high rank piece, that you need things from a NM to make but it still needs other high rank syths to be done first, having to rank multiple crafts just to make one piece is not increasing difficulty, it is making it more tedious.
    Apart from a few rare crafts, it tends to be shortage of materials/components on the markets (due to low retainer bazaar spots) that makes such items hard to craft, not ''having to rank up other classes to 50''

    I dunno about you, but even in wow i often had to get materials off the AH in order to level my crafting..
    Hell, with the ways the gathering job there were tied into leveling crafting you pretty much had to live in the AH in order to be able to level at all. (unless you enjoyed maxing gathering professions and grinding~)

    Now imagine what it would be like if the items you needed werent to be found on the ah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Apart from a few rare crafts, it tends to be shortage of materials/components on the markets (due to low retainer bazaar spots) that makes such items hard to craft, not ''having to rank up other classes to 50''

    I dunno about you, but even in wow i often had to get materials off the AH in order to level my crafting..
    Hell, with the ways the gathering job there were tied into leveling crafting you pretty much had to live in the AH in order to be able to level at all. (unless you enjoyed maxing gathering professions and grinding~)

    Now imagine what it would be like if the items you needed werent to be found on the ah?
    Unless I have the craft high enough to make a mat, I will buy them from the MWs, but this is not profitable if your doing it to make money, and you need to make/gather/buy from NPC.

    Most of the time (as far as I know) people will make thier own gear for HQs, which is cheaper when you make them, but only going for HQs will not make money if you buy from the wards because of the random factor currently in crafting HQs because of this it could take alot of crafts to get the HQ, so the thing to do is sell the NQs to make money back but as I say you will be loosing money from that which is why people will still want to craft the mats, all the money they get is profit and they get the HQ gear they want so they are killing two birds with one stone.

    As I say though personnaly I buy mats when I can but I know people that prefer to gather/farm/craft the mats which is who I am talking about.

    Sorry if the post is a lil hard to read.
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    Might be its different when your only making finished items at rank 50 for the gil, shrug. I see your point there.~
    Dunno if they plan on actuall dumbing down crafting at that rank tho, they might even make it more complex/harder.
    Still, you dont have to make max rank items for selling, theres plenty of profitable things to make that are lower rank.

    And hey, you use small sentences even less then i do. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Might be its different when your only making finished items at rank 50 for the gil, shrug. I see your point there.~
    Dunno if they plan on actuall dumbing down crafting at that rank tho, they might even make it more complex/harder.
    Still, you dont have to make max rank items for selling, theres plenty of profitable things to make that are lower rank.

    And hey, you use small sentences even less then i do. xD
    I know there are lower rank items to make for profit, but people just like to see big numbers so some will wanna sell high rank items (especially in this screwed economy) for the millions of gil they can get for em.

    While I do agree we need complex items that sell for alot because of the time it takes to make em, I dont think all high rank items should take this long especially when you need to make 4 items to make 1 mat, then another 5 for another etc then make the items.

    As I say making all crafts need multiple crafts to level =/= difficulty, that should be based on using the right options at the right time for what you need to do.
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