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  1. #261
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    FallenArisen0990's Avatar
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Behemoth
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Back in my day we didn't have no retainers. All we had was a gobbie bag and a mog safe... and we liked it!!!
    YES! YES! The pain to adding in housing items that gave space, with the moggy safe and gobbie bags! Omg the pain it was back then.... And crap didn't even stack like that!
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  2. #262
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    Blissa's Avatar
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Neither will 99% of the playerbase, we will pay the minimum or close to it and enjoy the heck out of it while you stew about how unfair it is.
    I am not stewing I am voicing my opinion with my wallet. I was paying $204 a year for a sub and I bought the collector edition for $60. I canceled them both!
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  3. #263
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceWing View Post
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    They should make it that you get an extra free retainer when you buy an expansion, to accommodate the newer items that you will get in the newer areas.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  4. #264
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    Blissa's Avatar
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    You seem to have an unfortunate tendency to make statements about things you know nothing about, like what I do or do not do with my 8 L50 crafting classes. I don't think you are doing yourself any favors just making stuff up like that.
    Trust me I know because just 1 hours worth of effort is enough to fill a 20 slot retainer.
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  5. #265
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    Lewtskie's Avatar
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by lokinmodar View Post
    No. There is not!
    25 spaces per Armoury page. (managed to think 30 for a reason while still doing all the math for 25 slots, I am error.)

    Main Arm for each class - 20 spaces/+3 come HW (This leaves 2 free spaces)
    Secondary Arm - 21 (+1 for PLD) = 24 come HW
    All body gear, if we are looking at having all unique attire as some is still shared, 20 spaces/+3 come HW
    Accessories, looking at about 7-8 slots as most are shared between roles and dps types
    Rings, 14-16 spaces (still leaves 6-4 free spaces)
    Soul Stones spaces are constantly expanding

    Accessories and body pieces are all give or take, depending if jobs share the same thing. Main Arms are your only solid contender, and still you have empty slots. So where is it that we're capped in terms of necessary space?
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    Last edited by Lewtskie; 06-18-2015 at 07:21 AM.

  6. #266
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    Ashgarth's Avatar
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    Ashgarth Sorel
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    Louisoix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    25 spaces per Armoury page.

    Main Arm for each class - 20 spaces/+3 come HW (This leaves 2 free spaces)
    Secondary Arm - 21 (+1 for PLD) = 24 come HW
    All body gear, if we are looking at having all unique attire as some is still shared, 20 spaces/+3 come HW
    Accessories, looking at about 7-8 slots as most are shared between roles and dps types
    Rings, 14-16 spaces (still leaves 6-4 free spaces)
    Soul Stones spaces are constantly expanding

    Accessories and body pieces are all give or take, depending if jobs share the same thing. Main Arms are your only solid contender, and still you have empty slots. So where is it that we're capped in terms of necessary space?
    Great.

    Now add crafter materials to that lovely math.
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  7. #267
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    Lewtskie's Avatar
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    Great.

    Now add crafter materials to that lovely math.
    I.. don't think you're supposed to shove crafting materials into your armoury? I mean, unless there's a special feat for that with crafters?
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  8. #268
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    Aethaeryn's Avatar
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    So where is it that we're capped in terms of necessary space?
    That means if you want to carry fun items that you don't want to glamour over your gear (santa set, halloween set, vday set, etc.) you have to put it in your regular inventory and take up even more room. I would love to see a nice increase in armory space even more than a free retainer. Also, you're forgetting that jobs that share gear aren't necessarily the same BiS pieces either, so that adds to the space issues.
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  9. #269
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    IceWing's Avatar
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    Ice Wing
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Accessories and body pieces are all give or take, depending if jobs share the same thing. Main Arms are your only solid contender, and still you have empty slots. So where is it that we're capped in terms of necessary space?
    Depends on the person, some like myself have a few different gear sets for whatever I'm doing. Such as a Pvp set, a Dps Tank, or a Tanky Tank.
    Not all have different weapons but some do and if I were to have a set for all my jobs + the pvp sets or dps tank set in addition to a set or two for my dps jobs such as High Accuracy Ninja, or Low Acc Ninja, and Pvp Ninja. While these extra sets are not required they are good to have for those of us who like to do our jobs 100% of the time and not sit back and hit 123 123 123 123 123 /doze,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  10. #270
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 60
    If all the extra bytes required to store additional data in retainers are so costly and valuable, how about we free up all the data the millions of RMT/gathering bots have tied up with their accounts? The minuscule amount of actual data storage you get from additional retainers, in relation to the price per byte of data, is essentially at the price per byte people had to pay in the 70's/80's when data storage methods were much less efficient than they were now. These days data is so cheap I could set up one free 5GB web based email account after another... so charging is a $50 a year for a few bites isn't something they do out of necessity to simply pass their costs on to the customer, they're charging it because they know people are constrained by the existing limits that are there and their only choices are to make undesired trade-offs (discarding things they'd like to keep- when is that a friendly position to put a customer in), or to pay the amount that's only reason for being set as it is, is because it's the most they think they can get away with charging. It's called price gouging. It's like when you go to the amusement park and have to pay $5 for a bottled water from a vending machine that costs $1.99 elsewhere. Sure, you don't have to buy that drink if you get thirsty, you can just be uncomfortable, and with the extra price you're paying for the 'convenience' lol but somehow the cost of that convenience goes way the hell up when there are no other viable options.
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    Last edited by Buff_Archer; 06-18-2015 at 07:34 AM.

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