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    Player
    Adire's Avatar
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    Erin Grey
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    You assume and exaggerate far to much
    Care to elaborate ?

    We've got a cash shop that is steadily being expanded, with a considerable expansion to it now coming in the form of even more retainers, which actually have functionality, no assumptions or exaggerations there.

    We've got a supposedly massive expansion coming up with very little done to deal with the already problematic storage problems other than asking us to potentially double our sub fee to solve the problem.

    We're playing an already subscription based game, when other games (such as even some f2p ones) deal with this problem in better ways, when a subscription game SHOULD be dealing with these types of problems in a more satisfactory way.

    Not assuming anything here, and not exaggerating! Just going off the information the OP referenced, straight from SE themselves!
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    Talia Hailwind
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    Its called an expansion for a reason. Expand my inventory please before you start destorying it with all the new items sqaure,

    since you know.....

    They said this expansion is gonna be as big as 2.0, kind of a no brainer if you ask me.
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    Crystal Dreams
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    I have always been loudy against the retainer rental idea from the start, but as an omni crafter+gatherer and with various melee classes in different level ranges (so needing individual gear) I gave in and rented my 2 extras. This latest retainer rental announcement really annoyed me though.

    The problem isn't the monthly cost, at least in my opinion. A lot of players spend more than $30 a month on junk they don't need.

    The problem is that MMO's are designed to keep players paying for the long haul. Even if they charged a flat out fee of $20 per retainer, that would still be cheaper than renting them for $1 a month for a lot of people. Heck, plenty of people play the same game for over a decade. That's $120 for just a single retainer, let alone the people who will be getting 6 of the paid things... There is honestly no end to the nickel and diming in a rental scheme and they just keep adding up. I don't like that at all...

    If they want to charge for retainers, I think they should have a buy option instead of (or even as well as) a rental option. Sure, some people might not use a bought retainer for 20 months (or the equivalent to however much they choose to charge for it) and those people may lose out if buying is the only option, but selling instead of renting rewards long term loyalty instead of punishing it, and if both systems are employed then everyone benefits. SE gets plenty of money too.
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    Without reading everything posted here, i was disappointed to read they were not giving you at least 1 additional retainer for free because I feel like we are really starting to feel the squeeze of not having inventory space we desire and they are adding three jobs and ten levels worth of new items materials and stuff.

    That said it's possible the problem will be alleviated somewhat by the fact that you can now desynth and trade in basically all the 2.xx gear and that they expanded what you can store in the armory chests, I know for me that frees up basically 3/4th of one of my retainers right away.
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    Lillia Hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetaRed View Post
    That said it's possible the problem will be alleviated somewhat by the fact that you can now desynth and trade in basically all the 2.xx gear and that they expanded what you can store in the armory chests, I know for me that frees up basically 3/4th of one of my retainers right away.
    It also helps that we can farm lower gears that we may of saved for new classes/jobs as we get higher with our mains with less than a full party and no ilvl limit.

    Meaning all that can be tossed out if we're willing to deal with slight RNG but fast farmings.
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    Thail Ashlain
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    It is ridiculous to put so many new items into the game and not give us additional inventory space. I might pay a one time fee for additional space, but not a subscription. If I max out during the expansion I won't pay for another retainer, I'll cancel my subscription entirely. That's a promise.
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    Iam Groot
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    TLDR

    SE wants more money, and you don't want to pay.
    impact on game = 0
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    Hoarders gonna Horde.

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    This game has more inventory space than any other MMO already. Just saying.


    It will never be enough space for those who like to collect/horde.

    Horders gonna Horde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    This game has more inventory space than any other MMO already. Just saying.


    It will never be enough space for those who like to collect/horde.

    Horders gonna Horde.
    Hate to break this to you pumpkin, but you haven't the slightest clue on what you're talking about. And to add to this, even though it's not going to get through to that thick head of yours. This game right here is not EVERY OTHER MMO, this game is final fantasy XIV!. You understand that?, there is a loooooot of items in this game and definitely not enough space for a large majority of these items.
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    Hate to break this to you pumpkin, but you haven't the slightest clue on what you're talking about. And to add to this, even though it's not going to get through to that thick head of yours. This game right here is not EVERY OTHER MMO, this game is final fantasy XIV!. You understand that?, there is a loooooot of items in this game and definitely not enough space for a large majority of these items.
    Honest question here, what developer in the right mind develops a storage system where they design it around being able to collect and store the majority of items in a game at a single time?
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