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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    To me, even $30 a month to play FFXIV is a bargain. That's around 20 cents an hour, a far better deal than a movie or typical $60 game.
    Anybody that supported this comment is part of what is wrong with the gaming industry as a whole, but let's save that for another thread
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    You're right - the difference between you and I is I won't throw money at a 'solution' to a problem that really shouldn't exist in the first place. I'll work around it and if that means dropping a few more items than I would otherwise, that's ok with me.

    Microtransactions may be the world we live in, but by the goddess I don't have to like it. I'm from the generation that believed in getting value for our dollars, not just throwing more dollars at something because a company is too lazy to craft an actual solution to a problem they created.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    Anybody that supported this comment is part of what is wrong with the gaming industry as a whole, but let's save that for another thread
    Let me put it another way: I've spent many times my subscription cost for FFXIV on the hardware I bought specifically for playing the game: specialized mouse and keyboard, new monitor with faster GtG response, upgrading to a GTX 970, and so on. And I plan to keep upgrading my hardware as time goes on (e.g. to 4K when that technology is mature).

    Another $8 a month for 4 more retainers isn't going to change my FFXIV-related spending much. YMMV, but at least appreciate that spendy people like me keep Yoshida-san's corporate overlords happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    You're right - the difference between you and I is I won't throw money at a 'solution' to a problem that really shouldn't exist in the first place. I'll work around it and if that means dropping a few more items than I would otherwise, that's ok with me.
    I applaud your industry, sincerely. But I have more money than I need and less time to play FFXIV than I would like, so I have chosen a different path. Hopefully both our paths allow us to enjoy the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    there is already enough room for everything.

    if you want to keep more then you actually need then you will need to pay.
    This. Even with all jobs and classes leveled, there's plenty of room for gear and everything else. Quit holding onto useless crap that just needs to be crafted or desynthed. Proper inventory management doesn't even take up one full retainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I applaud your industry, sincerely. But I have more money than I need and less time to play FFXIV than I would like, so I have chosen a different path. Hopefully both our paths allow us to enjoy the game.
    I find it fascinating that your very first four posts are all in this thread to support paying for inventory. Was that a coincidence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Let me put it another way: I've spent many times my subscription cost for FFXIV on the hardware I bought specifically for playing the game: specialized mouse and keyboard, new monitor with faster GtG response, upgrading to a GTX 970, and so on. And I plan to keep upgrading my hardware as time goes on (e.g. to 4K when that technology is mature).

    Another $8 a month for 4 more retainers isn't going to change my FFXIV-related spending much. YMMV, but at least appreciate that spendy people like me keep Yoshida-san's corporate overlords happy.
    Just remember, nickle and dimeing can cost you more in the long run that up front, one time large costs. And spending a lot may keep the corporate suits happy, but remember, they are not looking out for your best interests. And in the end, they get their way if customers allow it.

    The more they realize you're willing to spend on things that would have otherwise been covered by subscription fees, the more they'll lock content behind paywalls, and the more you'll have to pay for less content, since cost cutting is also part of making money as a business. They will push your limits, and until you draw a line, they will continue.

    If customers are willing to pay twice as much money for half as much content as they used to get, this is what corporate suits will want. This is why we get so much less value from DLC these days in games in general, and why we now have cash shops and such in Pay to play games when previously such a thing was out of the question.
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    Last edited by Adire; 06-18-2015 at 04:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    I find it fascinating that your very first four posts are all in this thread to support paying for inventory. Was that a coincidence?
    It's like this: usually I just read the FFXIV reddit, but I'm psyched for HW so I browsed here to. This thread caught my attention so I logged in and posted a comment. Then I followed up on replies and other posts. Call it a whim if you like, nothing darker.

    It's just a distraction to keep me from the work I really should be doing. Fortunately the servers are down tomorrow so I can make up the time I should have worked today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Let me put it another way: I've spent many times my subscription cost for FFXIV on the hardware I bought specifically for playing the game: specialized mouse and keyboard, new monitor with faster GtG response, upgrading to a GTX 970, and so on. And I plan to keep upgrading my hardware as time goes on (e.g. to 4K when that technology is mature).

    Another $8 a month for 4 more retainers isn't going to change my FFXIV-related spending much. YMMV, but at least appreciate that spendy people like me keep Yoshida-san's corporate overlords happy.
    Yeah sure not for you as long as you are ok that's fine right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    Yeah sure not for you as long as you are ok that's fine right?
    To be fair though, it really is just an optional service. One that you can pay the in-between (don't have to go for max retainers) or just not use at all. Hoarding, even in a video game (an RPG, no less), is still a bad habit lol. The only true issue is how it contradicts the excuses we were given in the past about inventory and/or proper armoire expansion. Even if it were 1 more retainer for free or them expanding the armoire a little, it would have at least shown a bit of understanding towards the issue. Instead of doing what can easily be taken as lying to find an excuse to give to find more ways to make players pay for more things in a P2P game, even if there might be legit unknown reasons. "The dog ate my homework!"

    Again, not a big deal as far as offering additional optional services, but it can become a far bigger deal when you contradict yourself to make it seem like you're innocent and caring LOL.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 06-18-2015 at 05:13 AM.

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