Pay for your inventory.

[IceWing]

There needs to be one or two more free retainers, or a bundle/discount for buying all 6 retainers. And not some bs discount like $1 off the entirety of the purchase, but $0.30-$1.00 off of each retainer

I'd even be willing to do a one off payment such as $20-$25 per retainer for life....

[Atlaworks]

I'd even be willing to do a one off payment such as $20-$25 per retainer for life....

I agree. I mean, I don't want to pay for more space when it's becoming more rapidly necessary and I think people need one more retainer for free considering the influx of new items, I would have paid for an additional retainer when it first came out if it was just one flat fee. I don't have to make continuous payments for anything else on the mog station- and I really hate the idea of a bolted-on service being added to monthly payments.

You grossly assumed my financial situation and you are exaggerating with your slippery slope paranoia.

You're still making assumptions and not offering any actual insight back. You certainly didn't elaborate; you just used a logical fallacy, slick.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Try again.

[SDaemon]

You're still making assumptions and not offering any actual insight back. You certainly didn't elaborate; you just used a logical fallacy, slick.

LOL What?

Did you read what they wrote? They are assuming I have the money to splurged on this simply because I don't mind it. That isn't a straw-man argument on my part to say they are making assumptions. Actually know what is going on before you comment, kthnx?

Also calling out someones use of a slipper slop argument as their support isn't a strawman.

[Atlaworks]

Snip.

Yes, I did. Do two wrongs make a right? I just happen to dislike your snarky personal attacks as response other than actual information. That's what a strawman is: you misrepresented an argument to make it easier to attack. Then attacked it. I did leave a helpful link for you, if you need a better explanation- and please, try to tone down the sass. It doesn't help your credibility at all.

On topic- I would prefer at least for retainers to be a flat fee rather than a monthly thing, but one free one should be implemented, I feel, simply because the growing amount of items added by this patch in addition to what we already have is slowly pushing our capacities over the edge as is. It's called an optional service for a reason.

[Adire]

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I think he's getting the slippery slope fallacy confused with someone noticing legitimate trends. I can name a ton of different negative trends that have developed in the real world even.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... anyone?

[SDaemon]

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You dislike that I called her out on her obvious assumptions and use of slipper slope fallacy, but not her snarky "Good for you, you can splurge on this" remark? You'll have to forgive me if I find double standard in that. Your link to a straw-man example is moot as my replies were not straw-man in nature.

[Atlaworks]

You dislike that I called her out on her obvious assumptions and use of slipper slope fallacy, but not her snarky "Good for you, you can splurge on this" remark? You'll have to forgive me if I find double standard in that. Your link to a straw-man example is moot as my replies were not straw-man in nature.

I really don't need your approval to state my opinion, nor your consensus.

[SDaemon]

I really don't need your approval to state my opinion, nor your consensus.

And yet I can still find it a double standard regardless.

[Adire]

You dislike that I called her out on her obvious assumptions and use of slipper slope fallacy, but not her snarky "Good for you, you can splurge on this" remark? You'll have to forgive me if I find double standard in that. Your link to a straw-man example is moot as my replies were not straw-man in nature.

Until you can prove that we have not had those cash shop updates that I mentioned, and they are not a trend of an increasingly expanding cash shop, expanding into functionality increasingly over cosmetic items even, I don't think you're making a good case for yourself by continuing to accuse me of using the slippery slope fallacy.

Also, it looked pretty strawman to me...

You'd have to be pretty shallow to think that this isn't a cash grab, tossing in storage and gating it behind an increased sub fee as the only way to get increased storage when we already have storage issues and an expansion is going to cram more items into the game. If that's not a slip towards a slope after prior cash shop updates, I don't know what is. It's a legitimate trend.

[SDaemon]

Until you can prove that we have not had those cash shop updates that I mentioned, and they are not a trend of an increasingly expanding cash shop, expanding into functionality increasingly over cosmetic items even, I don't think you're making a good case for yourself by continuing to accuse me of using the slippery slope fallacy.

Also, it looked pretty strawman to me...

Other than the increase in retainers which translates to more ventures going out, where is the expanding functionality coming from?