Pay for your inventory.

[SDaemon]

Cash shop features are a slippery slope. This has been said many times already, now people who were like "nahhh" are finding it out too.

Nope, still saying "nahhh". And still don't mind.

[Lillia]

Nope, still saying "nahhh". And still don't mind.

Well, you know what they say about people and assumptions! I'm still pretty nahh on it as well, it would of been cool for 1 more retainer but hey least I can toss out all that gear on my one retainer making it basically an empty retainer like magic!

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I agree with the only pre-ordering if I know I'm gonna no matter what. Besides if I didn't pre-order I probably wouldn't find any point in playing anymore as lvl 60 seems exclusively tied to expansion along with new story/dungeons/trials/job quests and additional higher level skills.

[Adire]

Nope, still saying "nahhh". And still don't mind.

Good for you

I wish I was made of enough money to be so loose with my spending as to not care about obvious cash grabs being introduced to a favorite game of a favorite hobby. But if you are, more power to you! Hopefully SE won't ever push your limits like they're pushing the limits of many people already.

[SDaemon]

Good for you

I wish I was made of enough money to be so loose with my spending as to not care about obvious cash grabs being introduced to a favorite game of a favorite hobby. But if you are, more power to you! Hopefully SE won't ever push your limits like they're pushing the limits of many people already.

You assume and exaggerate far to much

[Adire]

You assume and exaggerate far to much

Care to elaborate ?

We've got a cash shop that is steadily being expanded, with a considerable expansion to it now coming in the form of even more retainers, which actually have functionality, no assumptions or exaggerations there.

We've got a supposedly massive expansion coming up with very little done to deal with the already problematic storage problems other than asking us to potentially double our sub fee to solve the problem.

We're playing an already subscription based game, when other games (such as even some f2p ones) deal with this problem in better ways, when a subscription game SHOULD be dealing with these types of problems in a more satisfactory way.

Not assuming anything here, and not exaggerating! Just going off the information the OP referenced, straight from SE themselves!

[SDaemon]

Not assuming anything here, and not exaggerating! Just going off the information the OP referenced, straight from SE themselves!

You grossly assumed my financial situation and you are exaggerating with your slippery slope paranoia.

[Adire]

You grossly assumed my financial situation and you are exaggerating with your slippery slope paranoia.

Umm....lol.

I said if you have enough money to buy into what SE is doing at the moment, more power to you. I didn't exactly label you with a specific amount of wealth...I simply said you have enough money to have the willingness and ability to pay for what content SE is wanting to gate behind payment. This much can be inferred, seeing as you admitted that you're okay with things so far. So again, no assumptions . You admitted yourself that you have enough money to currently view what SE has chosen to gate behind payment as worth your money and capable of being paid for by your money.

Also, it's not paranoia. We can see the trend developing already. I can spell it out for you if you like:

First we had fantasia and subscription to extra retainers.

Then we had a cash shop open up which included a mount and some old event items.

Then we had premium Eternal Bond options added.

Then we had dyes added, which have been 100% in game up until that point.

Now we've got more retainers (the most functional of any cash shop feature) added when we need the storage space most.

Is it paranoia to notice a clearly developing trend? Because if so, I guess everyone would be paranoid for noticing any consistency in anything.

You cleaned it to sound more suggestive of them being able to up near the end but if you read most of it out loud to yourself it can sound pretty assuming of the person being able to just toss cash around vs you not being able to spurge money in the same sense, to the one reading it and maybe even a little sarcastic which is what the person was commenting on not your ending remark with SE, anyways elaborated for you.

My response to SDaemon should clarify for you as well.

[Lillia]

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This will be my second and last reply to you as I can already tell this can start to derail any moment now.

You sounded as if you assumed he can spend money unlike yourself because he said he was fine with this and still all nahhh about it. He could be just fine with it because it doesn't affect him period, he may not hoard or glamour as much as others here. Doesn't mean he does or doesn't spend money for a retainer, I personally wouldn't know but the way you worded it could be taken in more than the context that you, yourself and another gentleman here read it.

[Lillia]

Care to elaborate ?

Good for you

I wish I was made of enough money to be so loose with my spending as to not care about obvious cash grabs being introduced to a favorite game of a favorite hobby. But if you are, more power to you! Hopefully SE won't ever push your limits like they're pushing the limits of many people already.

You cleaned it to sound more suggestive of them being able to up near the end but if you read most of it out loud to yourself it can sound pretty assuming of the person being able to just toss cash around vs you not being able to spurge money in the same sense, to the one reading it and maybe even a little sarcastic which is what the person was commenting on not your ending remark with SE, anyways elaborated for you.

You grossly assumed my financial situation and you are exaggerating with your slippery slope paranoia.

I wouldn't bother replying if I was you, you're going to max your 20 post limit in what may stir into an endless argument.