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    Onikimaru's Avatar
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    Ellie Fredericksen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    So, after talking dozens of times in interviews and Q&A about inventory problems with all the new recipe materials, gear and jobs in 3.0 the solutions is...

    You can pay more retainers.

    So it's impossible to adds a few more spaces to the armoury chest or increase the retainer capacity but it seems that allowing us to basically pay twice as much per month is completely doable.
    Just posted a similar topic on reddit and was greeted with "its your fault you have no space"...so +1 signed .

    Also why the %#$^ should we have to pay for extra storage when we're already buying the game, expansion AND sub. Sorry SE but that is just not cool..i've been playing a PAY TO WIN MMO lately with the main emphasis on vanity, this MMO GIVES YOU THE PLAYER the option to do special quests in order to unlock more inventory space. No need to buy extra...for PAY TO WIN.
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    Sakura Kinakina
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    Hmm pay or trash stuff i may want later on? https://youtu.be/fD76_5ZIol0 plz don't make me beg
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    This is the problem when game developers think they are the marketing department, they stop trying to make a good game and start trying to make the most efficient money vaccuum.

    To add 3 new jobs to an already suffering inventory space and not give us any more free storage is just pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Pan Cake
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    While for most players, the original 2 retainers is enough to hold everything they need, some people (such as myself) have trouble just sticking to 4 retainers. I have 2 retainers holding my glamours (with dyes and prisms), 1 retainer holding HQ mats only, and the other retainer holding all other mats - and all of them are 170~/175 items. The extra 3 or 4 on the mog station would be perfect for me, and I find them quite cheap for what they are. But I can also understand players not wanting to have to pay irl money to have more space, incoming 'P2W'.
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    I don't buy the excuse that increasing server-side data like this should mean having to pay this much more... and I'll explain why:

    Right now there are two subscription options: Basic and Full.
    - Basic gets you 1 character per server with a max of 8 characters across all servers
    - Full gets you 8 characters per server with a max of 40(?) characters across all servers

    Full costs $3 more per month than Basic.

    So eight characters with two retainers each would be 16 retainers (no additional ones purchased) for $3/month over the Basic price. That's an absolute TON of extra data compared to just a bunch of retainers on a single character. Besides all the retainer data, it's also full character data for seven additional characters. But adding 6 retainers to a Basic account doubles the subscription fee? Nope. I don't buy it.

    Furthermore because we can't share inventories or mail between alts outside of some personal FC shenanigans (which precludes you from joining an FC to pull off), we don't even have the choice to pay for the more efficient option to expand inventory space. All this ostensibly to curb rmt activities.... yeah that's going really well.

    So no. If these end up doubling the sub fee for Basic-level players, it's just greed. There's no technical reason for this that makes any sense at all. SE just wants more money from you and they've figured out how to get it.

    Not even free-to-play games charge you MONTHLY for your expanded inventory space.
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    Lord Rulkar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    There's no technical reason for this that makes any sense at all. SE just wants more money from you and they've figured out how to get it.

    Not even free-to-play games charge you MONTHLY for your expanded inventory space.
    I don't want to pay either but there is a technical reason. Server side refresh / save ratios. What I mean is how often the serves save data. i don't think it's really a space issue on the servers as it is how many times per minute a save is made on the complete characters set of data. Just having more than one character which you can only log onto one a time btw, does not change this formula much. Having a character with large amount of storage to refresh does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHS View Post
    I don't want to pay either but there is a technical reason. Server side refresh / save ratios. What I mean is how often the serves save data. i don't think it's really a space issue on the servers as it is how many times per minute a save is made on the complete characters set of data. Just having more than one character which you can only log onto one a time btw, does not change this formula much. Having a character with large amount of storage to refresh does.
    Is there some reason I'm not thinking of that would cause retainer inventories to be saved outside of when they're being edited?

    Poor design isn't the players' fault and players should not be penalized for it so harshly.
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    Kayo Zeilan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
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    Exactly, this has been a scam from day one. Couldnt have said it better. Specially the RMT excuse, because not being able to transfer items on an account RMT already have control over will really hunder their ability to... lol, jk, theyre not hindered at all. They dont want us transfering items between characters because they know we'd make pack mules and tell them to shove their payshop retainers, plain and simple. Is it any wonder why ventures came out around the time they let us buy more of them? Why more and more collectables come out yet no answer what so ever for inventory problems?
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I saw this coming when we were talking about the storage issues...

    And, of course, the armoire won't be properly fixed and we'll still have to keep future events' items on our retainers. Oh, and more non-stackable quest items going to our normal inventory, of course.

    And ventures? Alright, more retainers equal more chances to get those rare and expensive items. But no, this is not P2W. At all. The very least they could do would be DISABLE ventures on paid retainers.

    Way to go.
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
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    I'm usually on SE's side about the cash shop and additional services.

    However this is leaning heavily towards what F2P games do. No i take it back this is worst than what typical F2P games do.

    In almost every F2P game i have an account with, the most popular cash shop items are related to inventory and storage expansion i have purchased these features in several games and every time its a one time fee. Though usually in the $5-$10 USD price range.
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    Last edited by KaedrianLiang; 06-18-2015 at 02:09 AM.

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