The Monk Temple Reborn

[Craiger]

They aren't trying to nerf jobs that depend a lot on AAs guys... They are nerfing DET, because it kinda got out of hand compared to SS and Crit, and it would be even worse at 60.

I'm sure they will balance things so that it remains similar to how it's now relatively.

The change to Featherfoot, Demolish and Shoulder Tackle is interesting, but we still don't know the details on our new abilities :/

Based on the order of new abilities, and the fact that forbidden chakra doesn't have a level, tells me that's the same order of the abilities we saw in that picture with Elixir Field. Forbidden chakra probably is used with same button as Meditation(Chakra)

[Kanti]

If anything, I think they're just trying to close the massive stat weight gap DET has over everything else. So I don't want to think of it as a nerf, just stirring the pot a bit. I'm all for mixing up my stats.

[SunnyHirose]

I am hoping that the parameters they are "adjusting" on Shoulder Tackle is removing the dead zone. Not really something that is that big of a deal, but the dead zone is a little annoying sometimes.

It is, but it's also pretty neat to watch someone do something like stand in exactly the right spot for Heavensfall to get back on Nael without skipping a beat. Someone with a feel for that range can truly appreciate how baller that is.

IR says it increases critical hit rate (which should also increase critical strike damage in 3.0), but it doesn't show in the character stats page. so it might or might not increase the damage of critical hits.

It never influenced the stat "critical hit rate", just the actual critical hit rate. It will likely remain the same way in HW, where I'm guessing the base crit rate will be fixed and buffs make it happen more often. For the sake of certain jobs, I sure hope that base is more than the ~5% we currently have D:

In the JP version, they will be changing the name from (awkward literal translation incoming) "critical invocation power" to just "critical".

[Chokee]

It is, but it's also pretty neat to watch someone do something like stand in exactly the right spot for Heavensfall to get back on Nael without skipping a beat. Someone with a feel for that range can truly appreciate how baller that is.

It never influenced the stat "critical hit rate", just the actual critical hit rate. It will likely remain the same way in HW, where I'm guessing the base crit rate will be fixed and buffs make it happen more often. For the sake of certain jobs, I sure hope that base is more than the ~5% we currently have D:

In the JP version, they will be changing the name from (awkward literal translation incoming) "critical invocation power" to just "critical".

i was hoping that IR would interact with bootshine even just a little bit so its not totally wasted when they overlap. oh well.

[Odowla]

It never influenced the stat "critical hit rate", just the actual critical hit rate. It will likely remain the same way in HW, where I'm guessing the base crit rate will be fixed and buffs make it happen more often. For the sake of certain jobs, I sure hope that base is more than the ~5% we currently have D:

In the JP version, they will be changing the name from (awkward literal translation incoming) "critical invocation power" to just "critical".

I took it to mean it'll buff both.

Either way, I think it'll be ok.

DET nerf is needed, since Autoattacks scale WAY harder than anything else on DET - its keeping haste users (mnk/nin) in line with everyone else

[DSaint]

52 Form Shift - Change opo - cour - raptor forms.
54 Meditation - Tp recovery with chakra.
56 Elixir Field - Hadouken thing
58 Purification - ???
60 Tornado Kick - Attack based on GL stacks.


So, where is that attack to spend chakra stacks to smash things? This will be called "purification"?
Lol, nice way to "purify" things XD

[Ricdeau]

52 Form Shift - Change opo - cour - raptor forms.
54 Meditation - Tp recovery with chakra.
56 Elixir Field - Hadouken thing
58 Purification - ???
60 Tornado Kick - Attack based on GL stacks.


So, where is that attack to spend chakra stacks to smash things? This will be called "purification"?
Lol, nice way to "purify" things XD

You are missing Forbidden Charka. Not sure if you are in a different region and the patch notes are slightly different, but for NA it looks like this:

Level Action
52 Form Shift
54 Meditation
56 Elixir Field
58 Purification
60 Tornado Kick
- the Forbidden Chakra

It is, but it's also pretty neat to watch someone do something like stand in exactly the right spot for Heavensfall to get back on Nael without skipping a beat. Someone with a feel for that range can truly appreciate how baller that is.

For things like that I have no issues with the dead zone. I'm mainly talking about when it's a moving object and finding that sweet spot to activate it is annoying. The point where you're like is it faster just run forward or backward? I'd even just take a shorter dead zone. Like said I said not a big deal either way, but outside of changing the dead zone the only other parameters that can really be adjusted is the stun or damage because the cooldown is fine (and the stun and damage are fine too in my opinion).

[Craiger]

52 Form Shift - Change opo - cour - raptor forms.
54 Meditation - Tp recovery with chakra.
56 Elixir Field - Hadouken thing
58 Purification - ???
60 Tornado Kick - Attack based on GL stacks.


So, where is that attack to spend chakra stacks to smash things? This will be called "purification"?
Lol, nice way to "purify" things XD

You've got it a little wrong, here's how it should be:

52 Form Shift - Change opo - cour - raptor forms.
54 Meditation - Gives you 1 stack of Chakra(don't know if the stacks will have that name)
56 Elixir Field - Hadouken thing
58 Purification - TP recovery using Chakra
60 Tornado Kick - Attack based on GL stacks.
- Forbidden Chakra - Attack using Chakra

This is the first time we have seen the real English names of the abilities, and not just translations, that's why it's named Meditation and not Chakra like we have said before

[Arkenne]

I wonder what is a MNK supposed to do with Meditation for 4 levels...

[Craiger]

I wonder what is a MNK supposed to do with Meditation for 4 levels...

Well, Forbidden Chakra doesn't have a level in the patch notes, which makes me think the Meditation ability change to Forbidden Chakra once you have 5 stacks... Which is even more likely seeing how there would be nothing to use it on otherwise, like you said