The Monk Temple Reborn

[Sleigh]

Not to incite some negativity or anything but doesn't it seem like MNK isn't getting much potency added to their rotation compared to other classes? Unless Featherfoot becomes a DPS boost or Chakra does some hidden effect, I'm personally not seeing what will take level 50 MNK who is 1st or 2nd in DPS, while giving the ever loved Dragon Kick but relatively low on contributed DPS, to level 60 MNK in the same position.

Again not trying to assume that but from the numbers it kind of looks it to me so far.

[Aeliott]

Not to incite some negativity or anything but doesn't it seem like MNK isn't getting much potency added to their rotation compared to other classes? Unless Featherfoot becomes a DPS boost or Chakra does some hidden effect, I'm personally not seeing what will take level 50 MNK who is 1st or 2nd in DPS, while giving the ever loved Dragon Kick but relatively low on contributed DPS, to level 60 MNK in the same position.

Again not trying to assume that but from the numbers it kind of looks it to me so far.

I know what you mean, it doesn't seem like our main "rotation" has really changed much. Elixir Field is one new OGCD, apart from that the other stuff is a bit niche. Especially Tornado Kick. Forbidden Chakra could be the dealbreaker here, but it's hard to say until we know more about Meditation/Chakra stacks. If we can weave, what its cooldown is etc. Another thing to take into account is the changes to Crit and Skill speed. As Monk tends to have the most crits and highest skill speed we might see a big jump from that contribution alone.

[Kuroyasha]

I know what you mean, it doesn't seem like our main "rotation" has really changed much. Elixir Field is one new OGCD, apart from that the other stuff is a bit niche. Especially Tornado Kick. Forbidden Chakra could be the dealbreaker here, but it's hard to say until we know more about Meditation/Chakra stacks. If we can weave, what its cooldown is etc. Another thing to take into account is the changes to Crit and Skill speed. As Monk tends to have the most crits and highest skill speed we might see a big jump from that contribution alone.

Yea the changes to crit and ss will be huge for monks imo. Dat 30% internal release.

[Blackelement]

Yea the changes to crit and ss will be huge for monks imo. Dat 30% internal release.

Though don't forget determinations effect on auto attacks is being reduced, while its not gonna be a huge nerf (and effects everyone), doesn't this effect MNKs and NINs the most?

[Kuroyasha]

Though don't forget determinations effect on auto attacks is being reduced, while its not gonna be a huge nerf (and effects everyone), doesn't this effect MNKs and NINs the most?

Yea it affects us, but with the SS reworking of dots combined with the crit change, I'm more like meh whatever on the det change lol

If they removed the increase critical chance that would be pretty sad. 5% base crit is really low. You are right though the explanation is unclear and the wording can go either way. I'm hoping it means both.

Aww my hype would come crashing down if it wasn't both on top of the det change. Wouldnt make sense though imo. Might as well call the stat Crit Hit Dmg and not Crit Hit Rate in that case.

The wording for Skillspeed is the same with the "now affects....", but SS still affects the gcd, just in addition to the effects in the notes. I assume the same with Crit.

[Ricdeau]

Aww my hype would come crashing down if it wasn't both on top of the det change. Wouldnt make sense though imo. Might as well call the stat Crit Hit Dmg and not Crit Hit Rate in that case.

The wording for Skillspeed is the same with the "now affects....", but SS still affects the gcd, just in addition to the effects in the notes. I assume the same with Crit.

I would also assume it means both. If they removed the increase to critical chance then crit wouldn't be all that great considering they are trying to balance the scales with secondaries it wouldn't make any sense. If it does effect both then crit might be the new go to secondary for a lot of classes though. We'll just have to see how much they change det, and what is actually changing on crit.

[Ricdeau]

Not to incite some negativity or anything but doesn't it seem like MNK isn't getting much potency added to their rotation compared to other classes? Unless Featherfoot becomes a DPS boost or Chakra does some hidden effect, I'm personally not seeing what will take level 50 MNK who is 1st or 2nd in DPS, while giving the ever loved Dragon Kick but relatively low on contributed DPS, to level 60 MNK in the same position.

Again not trying to assume that but from the numbers it kind of looks it to me so far.

It's really going to come down to if Meditate is actually a GCD or if it's oGCD with a short cooldown. If it's oGCD with a shortish cooldown then we'd be using Forbidden Chakra with more frequency. We also still don't have a hard number on it's potency either.