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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    I wouldn't turn this into a WHM vs. SCH grudge-fest, tbh. The OP has some valid concerns, and Sleigh highlighted some REALLY good points about how what SCH is bringing to the raid table currently will benefit progression-oriented groups way more than the brute-force healing of WHM will. If Astrologian's Disable acts as its own Supervirus then it will at least be POSSIBLE for WHM/AST comps to survive raid busters like Gigaflare/Nerve Cloud, but I still suspect hardcore groups will roll SCH/AST if those effects stack.
    But here's the thing. In order to use a lot of that utility in a raid, SCHs need a strong healing partner. You aren't going to do anywhere close to the needed HP/S in cleric stance with selene out. If you're using all those heal buffs and Eos, yeah that closes the gap a bit, but then SCH isn't using that much fabled raid utility and will be stuck with cleric off.

    I don't say this to knock on SCH. I do say this as a... "Reports of WHM's death are greatly exaggerated"

    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    And don't even get me started on aldoquium! 300 cure potency and a shield of equal measure to 600. WOW! It's almost like it's the same as cure 2 that white mages get early on.
    Yep, literally an expensive cure II. And they have to be out of cleric to use it.

    However, this means the SCH in that stance no longer has a way to shield for tankbusters. Or those big raid AoEs.

    So... yeah, WHM/SCH won't be mandatory now but I think reports of white mage's death are greatly exaggerated ~.^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    However, this means the SCH in that stance no longer has a way to shield for tankbusters. Or those big raid AoEs.
    Is it confirmed now that Emergency Tactics is a stance/toggle? Or is that just a speculation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Is it confirmed now that Emergency Tactics is a stance/toggle? Or is that just a speculation?
    I doubt it's a stance. Sounded more like a temporary buff, similar to Divine Seal, Fey Illumination, etc.

    If it is a stance, be prepared for the tears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Is it confirmed now that Emergency Tactics is a stance/toggle? Or is that just a speculation?
    Here is what we know:



    *The stream shows off a video demonstration of scholar actions. Please note that all action names are tentative.

    Instead of just simply increasing a scholar's abilities, we made adjustments by adding actions that require you to really think about their use and the best time to utilize them. There are many actions which are useful during boss battles, so you may feel that it hasn’t changed much while running through instance dungeons.

    New action: Indomitability
    A new AoE healing action will supplement scholar’s current AoE healing strength, which may have felt a bit weak up until now.

    New action: Deployment Tactics
    This action will extend the effect of Adloquium and Eye for an Eye that is on the target player to other party members in range.

    New action: Emergency Tactics
    Instead of adding a barrier effect to Adloquium, this action will give addition healing power for the amount of the effect of the barrier.

    New action: Dissipation
    With this action, you dismiss your fairy in exchange for magic power.
    All we really know is that one won't be able to stance dance. Scholars will have to think carefully about when to use it. It's also not clear if and where aetherflow stacks might play into it.

    However, I really doubt SCHs are getting a 'win everything' button. The tone of the presentation has always been... well, I'll just emphasize this line: we made adjustments by adding actions that require you to really think about their use and the best time to utilize them.
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