Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
I wouldn't turn this into a WHM vs. SCH grudge-fest, tbh. The OP has some valid concerns, and Sleigh highlighted some REALLY good points about how what SCH is bringing to the raid table currently will benefit progression-oriented groups way more than the brute-force healing of WHM will. If Astrologian's Disable acts as its own Supervirus then it will at least be POSSIBLE for WHM/AST comps to survive raid busters like Gigaflare/Nerve Cloud, but I still suspect hardcore groups will roll SCH/AST if those effects stack.
But here's the thing. In order to use a lot of that utility in a raid, SCHs need a strong healing partner. You aren't going to do anywhere close to the needed HP/S in cleric stance with selene out. If you're using all those heal buffs and Eos, yeah that closes the gap a bit, but then SCH isn't using that much fabled raid utility and will be stuck with cleric off.

I don't say this to knock on SCH. I do say this as a... "Reports of WHM's death are greatly exaggerated"

Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
And don't even get me started on aldoquium! 300 cure potency and a shield of equal measure to 600. WOW! It's almost like it's the same as cure 2 that white mages get early on.
Yep, literally an expensive cure II. And they have to be out of cleric to use it.

However, this means the SCH in that stance no longer has a way to shield for tankbusters. Or those big raid AoEs.

So... yeah, WHM/SCH won't be mandatory now but I think reports of white mage's death are greatly exaggerated ~.^