So about that Glamour Log...

[Catwho]

Even if a complete glamour catalog, although ideal, isn't currently feasible, having the option to save gear sets as "glamour sets" might be another potential solution (for now).

The player could either set each gear and glamour sets separately, or possibly have the option to link which gear set go with which glamour set. I currently have about 15 gear set slots. I would imagine "space" would not be as much of an issue, even if they chose to give the player more gear slots for glamours. The solution would be repurposing a feature that already exists in the game. Still work, obviously, but not as heavy on the character data (I think).

... can't you do that now, though? I have a handful of sets that are pure glamour. My jockey set, for example. You can even rename sets, so I don't confuse my Bard Jockey set with my actual iLvl 126 bard set. Someone with all classes and jobs to 30 has 37 sets available - plenty to devote a handful to just fluff and glamour sets.

[DarkDedede]

I'm more referring to saving the set are a separate "glamour set" that can be applied to your current equipped gear. For example if you were to save a glamour set named "Jockey" it wouldn't be necessarily linked to the bard job, and could be applied to other gear sets as well. Current glamour restrictions permitting of course. With this option, the player could switch between outfits, without having to reapply glamours to each piece individually.

[SokiYagami]

Since we are getting another free (or so I heard) retainer in 3.0, how about we get to convert one of the three free retainers into a fashion consultant NPC that serve as an acting glamour log? Those who opted for it will lose four pages of inventory space and an additional access to market slot, but in return they no longer have to worry about inventory space for glamour gears. It will start out with an empty list, then we will have to manually register the skin of a glamour gear to the fashion NPC, which will also bind the gear to prevent re-selling, just like how it is done currently with glamouring. This way glamour collectors can go collect all the gears they want with minimum impact on server loads and those who aren't interested in it can enjoy the additional inventory space comes 3.0. What do you guys think?

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

My ideal system would work kind of like the Mount and Minion guides. When you get a new piece of gear, you have a couple choices. 1. Keep it for armor. 2. Convert it to materia if applicable. 3. Add it to glamour log. Doing so would forfeit your item, but you would have the glamour permanently.

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I'm hoping, at the very least, that it would only require the appropriate glamour prism to record it in the log. I'm guessing we'll have to record it manually, in some form or fashion. This would most likely result in spirit bonding each recorded piece to the player (similar to casing a glamour). However, I think sacrificing the piece would be going a bit too far. As long as it's bonded to the player, how and when the player decides to dispose of the item should be a choice left to the individual player themselves.

Brilliant idea. Though I don't think it should consume a prism to be recorded in the log. Prisms should be consumed just like normal. One is used as soon as you pick a glamour from your catalog.

This isn't actually true. They increase character data regularly as it is. Every added achievement, every quest, triple triad cards, mounts, minions, etc. are all separate bits of character data being added with every patch. While it's true that adding a glamour log would increase character data, it wouldn't have to add very much. You only need a single bit of data to record whether or not a player has obtained a particular piece of gear. A collection of 1,000 pieces of gear would be minimally 1kb, but probably a little more due to some system overhead. Multiply that by the 4.5 million accounts and generously account for 8 characters per account and you have a whopping 4.5 GB of character data across all characters on all servers.

What's more, achievements actually contribute significantly more to character data since they're not binary. Very many of them have counters with several digits that take up a lot of space with pretty minimal reward.

Additionally, data for gear in the inventory needs to remember spiritbond and condition. Data for a glamour log just needs to keep track of if it's been registered or not.

[SokiYagami]

3. Add it to glamour log. Doing so would forfeit your item, but you would have the glamour permanently.

No, no, no, no, oh hell no! I usually am willing to debate with opinion that I don't agree with and come to terms with it if it sound logically, but not this.

Last but not least, I'd said this before and I'll say it again, stop suggesting to sacrifice/trade/burn/consume/enter-whatever-word-here-that-mean-the-same-thing an item for it to be added into the glamour log. I'll give you a really simple example. Say, you want to glamour stage X relic on the current tier raid weapon, since the relic looks cooler but the raid weapon have better stats. So when SE update stage X+1 for the relic, do you really want to start from scratch again? Unless you are one of those who like the idea of re-farming glamour gear, I fail to see why you think sacrificing the item in order to add it to the log is a good idea.

[odie]

I think one thing that would help with inventory woes is to allow more higher level crafting materials to be purchased from vendors such as the housing area vendors. This way people won't need to keep such large supplies of materials on hand and can just buy what they need for cheap without having to go spend the time to gather it all or sending retainers out to get it.

[Jasmine_Aurelia]

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Uh... No, just no, glamor log, yes please!

[Nadirah]

WoWs void storage.

It's a "bank" that stores items(that you can use for transmogrification, their glamour system) that essentially stores a list of item IDs of things put in it. When you remove an item to actually use or vendor/disenchant (space is limited) it generates a completely new copy of the base item, removing that ID from the list.

Was set up like this to save space.

[Arrius]

No, no, no, no, oh hell no! I usually am willing to debate with opinion that I don't agree with and come to terms with it if it sound logically, but not this.

Relic weapon glamors can be tied to achievements, in where you acquire previous looks of your weapon automatically in your log.
For upgradable equipment that aren't relics, mayhap you could consult a crafter for it to create a replica without stats.

[Katana190]

Want, want want! +1 this idea! This game has so many options for glamour, like so many! Some are simple reskins but most are rather unique, although I would regret trading in all my allagan for seals -_- it would give me incentive to go back and farm for collection.