Please Allow 50's to Enter Ishgard w/o having completed MSQ

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Now, asking completely straight-faced:

1) What are these hypothetical lvl 1 players going to do in Ishgard when they get there?

Where on earth are you getting this?! I thought I read trough almost the whole thread (it is rather long so I skimmed parts of it) and I didn't see anyone asking to come into expansion areas as level 1. If I'm wrong, please correct me and point me to the posts.

And for content being new... really now... it's not new if it's year old(just as an example)... for those who haven't done it is new for them... but it is not new content as a whole regarging the game. I guess I worded it badly, sorry my mistake.

[Spiritreaver1217]

1)Where on earth are you getting this?! I thought I read trough almost the whole thread (it is rather long so I skimmed parts of it) and I didn't see anyone asking to come into expansion areas as level 1. If I'm wrong, please correct me and point me to the posts.

2)And for content being new... really now... it's not new if it's year old(just as an example)... for those who haven't done it is new for them... but it is not new content as a whole regarging the game. I guess I worded it badly, sorry my mistake.

@1-Sorry, simply taking all this 'let's skip the MQ' business to its ultimate iteration. I mean, if you skip the MQ, might as well be talking about a lvl 1 character. Also many of the ppl that have rotated in and out in support of the OP have repeatedly referred to brand new players being locked out of Ishgard-again in my mind that means ppl who haven't done the main quest.

Would you rather i stick to saying 'new players' ?

@2-No need for apologies. As i said i actually found it humorous, which is pretty awesome imo.

Still didn't answer the questions though.

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Still didn't answer the questions though.

This 1000 character limit is so infuriating! If anyone knows better way to deal with it than posting and editing aftwewards, please let me know!

Sticking with new players would seem to make more sense. When the expansion hits, new players can/should get to 50 fairly quick, and wouldn't you think they're still new players even after few weeks?

And yes sorry I didn't answer the questions, itwas because I questioned the level 1 thing which made no sense to me... but to put it short... what does it really matter if level 1 players somehow could go to new areas? They couldn't do much but at least it would be something they could choose to do... if for whatever reason they wanted to... but eventually they would need to get back to old areas anyway to level up and possibly do the story quests too.

[Spiritreaver1217]

This 1000 character limit is so infuriating! If anyone knows better way to deal with it than posting and editing aftwewards, please let me know!

Sticking with new players would seem to make more sense. When the expansion hits, new players can/should get to 50 fairly quick, and wouldn't you think they're still new players even after few weeks?

And yes sorry I didn't answer the questions, itwas because I questioned the level 1 thing which made no sense to me... but to put it short... what does it really matter if level 1 players somehow could go to new areas? They couldn't do much but at least it would be something they could choose to do... if for whatever reason they wanted to... but eventually they would need to get back to old areas anyway to level up and possibly do the story quests too.

Which is most likely the same reasoning the SE devs where using when they decided to keep access to the new jobs and the vast majority of the expansion behind the need of MQ completion-among other things(many of which we have very little idea about).

It is all well and good to have choices, but sometimes 'just because' is not a good enough reason to be given a choice or option that is essentially pointless. I mean you say it yourself, new players going to Ishgard before they finished the MQ would end up simply going back and finishing it up to 3.x anyways. I think SE saying to just do the MQ first is a good call for the design route they have decided to take in handling expansion content.

Now if you want to call out SE for developing HW for high level play(lvls 51-60) instead of making it more middle of the road, that would be a valid issue and one that they have struggled with even in FFXI(the lack of mid-level content and a 'top heavy' playerbase). But i don't think i have seen where anyone has given much thought to this in this thread. Its been all, 'I am caught up on the MQ, but what about the new players(cough-my mules), they are gonna have a hard time getting to Ishgard >.>'