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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Some people in this forum are as trustworthy as this
    Real friends share their opinions and thoughts. If one person is morally against something the other is doing, they're going to call them out on it. If your friendship can't survive it then you were never really friends to begin with.
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Real friends share their opinions and thoughts. If one person is morally against something the other is doing, they're going to call them out on it. If your friendship can't survive it then you were never really friends to begin with.
    Except you are being a bit too radical aren't you. Let me put you this example, imagine you are in a static, all 7 people are extremely nice to you, very nice group, impressive raid environment. Occasionally, you have a massive chain of wipes on a certain turn but somehow, they still joke about it and you end up even having fun wiping. They are not hardcore but they aren't terribly casual either as they strife their best to down each turn. Now, one day, on TS, the NIN confesses to you that he uses bots occasionally, you tell him you've never used one because somehow you think you'd see your fun ruined if you did, he thinks however, certain aspects of this game like gathering are overly tedious. I do not agree with him and I let him know. But he's still cool. That's the thing about friends, sometimes they are different to you, and sometimes you do not agree with them on certain things, but that doesn't give you the right to backstab them every time you have a different opinion about something. You can't just say "X person did X thing I didn't like", that means we weren't friends in the first place, because if you go around with this mentality you'll end up not making a lot of friends, or very poor ones.
    Of course there's a limit to this, I'm not going to defend a friend from murdering someone in real life Lol, but I consider "buying gil on an online game" something pretty light honestly. Have you ever had a friend who offered you drugs in a disco? What did you do when that happened? Rush to the closest police station and report them? xD.
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    Miya Carbuncle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Except you are being a bit too radical aren't you. Let me put you this example, imagine you are in a static, all 7 people are extremely nice to you, very nice group, impressive raid environment. Occasionally, you have a massive chain of wipes on a certain turn but somehow, they still joke about it and you end up even having fun wiping. They are not hardcore but they aren't terribly casual either as they strife their best to down each turn. Now, one day, on TS, the NIN confesses to you that he uses bots occasionally, you tell him you've never used one because somehow you think you'd see your fun ruined if you did, he thinks however, certain aspects of this game like gathering are overly tedious. I do not agree with him and I let him know. But he's still cool. That's the thing about friends, sometimes they are different to you, and sometimes you do not agree with them on certain things, but that doesn't give you the right to backstab them every time you have a different opinion about something. You can't just say "X person did X thing I didn't like", that means we weren't friends in the first place, because if you go around with this mentality you'll end up not making a lot of friends, or very poor ones.
    Of course there's a limit to this, I'm not going to defend a friend from murdering someone in real life Lol, but I consider "buying gil on an online game" something pretty light honestly. Have you ever had a friend who offered you drugs in a disco? What did you do when that happened? Rush to the closest police station and report them? xD.
    But then you realize that his actions are ruining the game for others, simply because he's lazy. :l Thanks to him there're RMT spammers and the economy is ruined. Also if it's just a game to you, then it shouldn't matter if he's banned. I mean it's just a game, right? Also if he's botting the gathering class, then he's making the economy unfair for those actually putting the time into the game. In no way does he have to play the gathering class, and it''s certainly not simply another playing style when it's negatively affecting the experience of others. Other people play the game too, and pay real money monthly to play it. Not to mention the free time involved on a daily basis to play a MMO. It's not fair that their experience is ruined and time wasted because he's feeling lazy.

    As for your last sentence, police =/= GMs. He's not getting into any real legal trouble and like I said, it affects the gameplay experience for players who play legitimately in a very negative way simply because they're lazy. So it's not the same thing. Also I would never hang with that type of person anyway. :l
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    Last edited by Miya_Carbuncle; 06-11-2015 at 07:02 PM.