No Hardware Anti-Aliasing under DirectX 11?

[Waliel]

And no, you can't just turn it off all the time. Some stuff requires coding lower end hardware just can't do.

What you're thinking of are new DirectX features or similiar. The only limitation for AA I can think of from the top of my head is that TXAA is Nvidia only. Even if there was one, they can just slap a DX11 only flag on it and it wouldn't affect your DX9 client in any way. No support lost.

[Ashman]

FFXIV is well known to use deferred rendering which prevents most forms of AA. They would have to re-code the engine entirely to change this method.

It doesn't require re-coding the entire engine, it's quite a simple adjustement.

https://software.intel.com/en-us/art...-aliasing-cmaa

[Radacci]

The textures maybe did not got a res bump but now they are uncompressed making the skin far far better looking without blocking and large squares..

duno if it's just me, but from running around randomly, it seems like they have increases texture res, in a few places. i don't have before/after pics, but it's what it feels like.
before everything looked blurry and low res, now there's some places with fairly high res textures; mor dhona, in the tangle for example. they added more crystal around the ramp to rathefrost, and the cliffs seem more high-res. also some cliffs in coerthas. it's quite noticeable, cause some segments are low res, others high-res. so maybe they are adding new textures, over time, checking how it works out....with tesselation, i hope they add higher res anyway.
here's to hoping.

[Nadirah]

What you're thinking of are new DirectX features or similiar. The only limitation for AA I can think of from the top of my head is that TXAA is Nvidia only. Even if there was one, they can just slap a DX11 only flag on it and it wouldn't affect your DX9 client in any way. No support lost.

This is a PC port console game.

If the PS4 can't support it, it likely won't happen. We should get used to it.

[Vateri]

This is a PC port console game.

There's no evidence to prove or suggest this game is a port. The heavily modified yet light-weight Luminous Engine ARR uses was designed with PC AND Consoles in mind.

If the PS4 can't support it, it likely won't happen. We should get used to it.

That's flawed logic. If that were the case, we wouldn't be getting a DirectX 11 client.

By your logic that would mean, no Tesselation, No HBAO, No Improvements

[Onikimaru]

Warlords of Draenor only recently got MSAA.

They changed their engine to deferred so they could take advantage of its lighting.

Considering the hype about lighting, I'm given to think that's why they switched engines for HW, and there was no hardware AA available until a recent patch.

This tells me either SE will do it later, or they just won't bother.

And no, you can't just turn it off all the time. Some stuff requires coding lower end hardware just can't do.

When they eliminate ps3 support perhaps. Then they can justify eliminating support for similar PC hardware.

As a side note, my card does not support DX11. And I don't run AA in *any* game. I cannot tell the difference anyway.

Lol coding, really?. Le sigh...DX11 fits more into that category than AA does. And just because you Can't tell the difference between AA and no AA does not mean everyone else can. 80% of us can tell the difference between 2, 4, 6, 10, 16, and 32x AA

[Nadirah]

Lol coding, really?. Le sigh...DX11 fits more into that category than AA does. And just because you Can't tell the difference between AA and no AA does not mean everyone else can. 80% of us can tell the difference between 2, 4, 6, 10, 16, and 32x AA

Having a DX11 client doesn't mean "we packed in all the bells right now".

And Mac doesn't use Direct X at *all*.

I *just* bloody said they'll likely add it later. After they ditch PS3 support.

[Vateri]

Having a DX11 client doesn't mean "we packed in all the bells right now".

I *just* bloody said they'll likely add it later. After they ditch PS3 support.

No you didn't, you just said in your previous post.

"The PS4 can't have these things, therefore no-one can'"

But now it suddenly does. You're bouncing between fact and fiction when it suits you.
'Hardware' Anti-Aliasing would be considerably more 'do-able' in the DirectX 11 client, this has NOTHING to do with the PS3/4/Mac.

Anti-Aliasing is NOT something 'locked' behind DirectX 11. The Deferred Rendering AA fix was dumped in with DirectX 10, and an OpenGL revision I can't recall. But this is a long-standing fix, with many many options for post-processing edge-detection based AA that barely costs any performance that could be added to the PS4 with ease.

And Mac doesn't use Direct X at *all*.

The Mac client is a wrapped DirectX client is most likely a Wine-Wrapper.

[seekified]

When it was still believed that the DX11 version would be a separate client, I had hopes that we'd be able to force SSAA through driver settings in this fresh, modern version of the game. Now that this is no longer the case, I'm sad we'll be left with FXAA. It works well enough for some things, but transparent textures and things further away look really crap.

[raelgun]

This is a PC port console game.

If the PS4 can't support it, it likely won't happen. We should get used to it.

This game is PC in mind first, and it is then ported to consoles, it is not the other way around, if what you say is true then, Sweet FX should be broken, razer naga+logitech G600 broken as well and multi monitor + ultrawide should not work as well, but they all do work. PS4 can not do any of those yet here we are, also theres a reason why we have minimum requirements in the first place, they are expected to run just don't expect it to run amazingly well, even SE knows this, which is why stuff like AA can be added in and do not be surprised if the minimum reqs go up over time because it will.