Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Dervy]

HT -(Internal Release)-> ID -( X-POT)-> Dis -(Power Surge + Blood for Blood)-> CT -(Jump)-> Phleb -(Dragonfire Dive)-> TT -(Spineshatter Dive)-> VT -(Life Surge)-> FT -(Leg sweep) —>

Then just use cooldowns once they're available, pretty much. Something like that.

[Jollyy5]

I always go: HT > (BfB) > Phleb >(IR) > ID > (Sweep) > Dis > (Power Surge) > CT > (Dragonfire Dive) > TT > (Jump) > VT > (Life Surge) > FT > (Spineshatter if available) > HT...

So far has won me the first place in DPS in T13 every time as far as I can remember... I still don't understand why I should use CT combo after HT, Phleb's initial potency is quite high and those DoT ticks should count for something, as it's also boosted by HT and BfB, right?

I'm not sure if IR affects DoT crits, and if it does, has it been confirmed that I need to use IR before Phelb in order for it to affect the DoT damage?

Also, I'm playing with ~125ms latency (with WTFast), so double weaving might be too much for me.

[Sleigh]

I always go: HT > (BfB) > Phleb >(IR) > ID > (Sweep) > Dis > (Power Surge) > CT > (Dragonfire Dive) > TT > (Jump) > VT > (Life Surge) > FT > (Spineshatter if available) > HT...

So far has won me the first place in DPS in T13 every time as far as I can remember... I still don't understand why I should use CT combo after HT, Phleb's initial potency is quite high and those DoT ticks should count for something, as it's also boosted by HT and BfB, right?

I'm not sure if IR affects DoT crits, and if it does, has it been confirmed that I need to use IR before Phelb in order for it to affect the DoT damage?

Also, I'm playing with ~125ms latency (with WTFast), so double weaving might be too much for me.

Someone's gonna come in and tell you how it's like 1 less DPS doing HT > Phleb > CT over HT > CT > Phleb, but here's the real reason. If nothing else, you put up CT first because that's a GCD sooner for Disembowel for BRD. BRD's at its strongest in the first 20s of a fight, you don't wanna lose even a GCD of buffing that.

[Spayd]

For me, I got:

HT (Legsweep+BFB)>ID (PS+IR)> Dis (X-pot)> CT (Jump)> Phlebo (DFD)> TT (SDD)> VT (Lifesurge)> TT (Poison pot)

Also, phlebo initial hit is affected by disembowel, you can also blood for blood and internal release your dots yes, but the buffs have to be active at the moment where you apply them. So if you wait for your phlebo, you have it buffed by HT+Disembowel+BFB+IR+ Xpot of str. Just flat better than right after HT.

[Jollyy5]

I know that Disembowel doesn't do anything for DoT's, but I can't argue it wouldn't boost the initial damage from Phleb.

I also don't understand how you fancy people can afford all those X-potions, including them in your rotations like that makes it seem like you use them every rotation...

[Aiurily]

Also, I'm playing with ~125ms latency (with WTFast), so double weaving might be too much for me.

i think it should be fine even with 125ms, but if not, and if you want to go for 9gcd bfb

(p.surge)>ht>(ir)>id>(xpot)>dis>(late bfb)>ct>(jump)>phleb(dfd/ssd)>tt(dfd/ssd)>vt>(ls)>ft(sweep)>ht(ppp)>tt>vt>ft(bfb off)

i've never cared about the order of jumps, between dfd and ssd. even if they're off cooldown, most of the time i think its better to save them til you're in bfb for 30% extra damage, unless you know that casting it earlier is going to get you another cast in or if you're gonna wait more than 36s/18s for bfb to come up after they go off cd respectively

[Spayd]

I know that Disembowel doesn't do anything for DoT's, but I can't argue it wouldn't boost the initial damage from Phleb.

I also don't understand how you fancy people can afford all those X-potions, including them in your rotations like that makes it seem like you use them every rotation...

Crafters in FC, Sell runs for money, yadayada, Xpot helps a lot in prog for pushing dps. Also help when you want to know where you can go in fights. I don't use them in every rotation because they arent always up. But when they are, I do use them. Not a lot tho since echo, because it has become unnecessary, so yeah. The damage boost of xpot is op tho; +84 strenght is non-negligable!

[Jollyy5]

And they say Dragoon is an easy class...

[Sleigh]

And they say Dragoon is an easy class...

Once you figure out the rotation you want to use, DRG IS an easy class. Probably the easiest DPS of all.

[Jollyy5]

That's the thing, there seems to be so many rotations, most of them seem to include the use of potions.

Do Monks have it like this, or do they just have one rotation without pots because they beat everyone's arse anyway if they can maintain GL?

I suppose I can take some solace in the fact that I'm still able to dish out competitive DPS, which I assume is because I have the fundamentals down... As in staying glued to the target, hitting while moving/dodging, not letting DoT's drop, etc...

How much more DPS can I expect if I use optimal rotation? I haven't tested my DPS on a dummy in a while, but I'm somewhere around 640 in T13 before first adds if I get lucky with mechanics.