Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
Shiva couldn't have been the first leader of Ishgard, the first leaders were Thordan that had a vision from Halone telling him to take Ishgard as their land, they encounter Niddhog that told them "Get out of my mountain !", they got mad, Thordan died, his son, Haldrath, attacked Niddhog and took his eye, becoming the first dragoon and the leader of Ishgard.
Maybe that's just what the Thordan line wants you to think :P Maybe spin it from a tale of rebels causing troubles between the dragons and Ishgardians into a righteous story where Haldrath avenged his father and began Ishgard in his honor.