ishgard

[Cilia]

I don't know where this obsession with Allag is coming from. Allag was wiped out ~6000 years ago, five millenniums before Ishgard was founded. Allag screwed with Meracydia, a dragon culture separate from Dravania that comes from a continent across the southern seas. Maybe Dravania is holding a grudge for that and maybe they're taking it out, in part, on Ishgard... but if that were true why aren't they making war on all the Spoken nations, and why does Midgardsormr point out (in the Japanese version of his post-"defeat" scene) that Dravania is making war on Ishgard for Ishgard's sins?

(There is the very real possibility Allagan tech has some role to play, but Allag itself is not directly related to the war. Probably.)

Reason I think Nidhogg was Shiva's lover is because it explains his unfathomable rancor. You're in love with this woman, and then her brother and kinsmen start attacking your people? She sacrifices herself to try and bring peace, only to have her brother betray their father (the rightful ruler) and kill him at a peace summit, then gouges out your eye and takes it as a trophy? That would drive most anyone to some pretty deep hatred.

[Kaiser-Ace]

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The Allagain thing seems to stem from the fact they conquered ALL of Hydaelyn by the end of the Third Astral Era so they undoubtedly did some damage to Dravania. Maybe Nidhogg's mother was The Enigmatic Abalathian and Allage killed her for the Lulz. Then lets say that he did indeed fall in love with Saint Shiva only for her to be killed by her kinsmen and her legacy spat on and desecrated. Then his Eye being stolen on top of that and used to slay HIS Kin would definitely drive any being let alone a Neigh Immortal one like the Celestial Dragons into an undying hatred for all of Non-Dragon kind.

(Personally I'm hoping Nidhogg WAS Shiva's lover and Hraesvelgr is who Iceheart brings us to to let us in on that secret.)

[Viridiana]

let alone a Neigh Immortal one like the Celestial Dragons into an undying hatred for all of Non-Dragon kind.

Now I'm picturing Nidhogg making horse sounds. Thanks. >_>

[Kaiser-Ace]

Now I'm picturing Nidhogg making horse sounds. Thanks. >_>

What? Why would that make you think of horse sounds? Or do I even wanna know?

[Cilia]

What? Why would that make you think of horse sounds? Or do I even wanna know?

Then his Eye being stolen on top of that and used to slay HIS Kin would definitely drive any being let alone a Neigh Immortal one like the Celestial Dragons into an undying hatred for all of Non-Dragon kind.

Neigh Immortal

Neigh

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I think the word you were looking for is "nigh." Neigh is the commonly-accepted onomatopoeia for horse sounds, lol.

[Kaiser-Ace]

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I think the word you were looking for is "nigh." Neigh is the commonly-accepted onomatopoeia for horse sounds, lol.

Damn it, spell check why you no healing! VOTE KICKED!!!

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Now I want all dragons to neigh like a horse at least once in the next Hildibrand episode!

[Isklexi]

My Little Dragon War: Grudges are Magic?

[Celvantis]

I think a few centuries separate the lives of Innocent II and Innocent III let alone Innocent I.

When it comes to sovern name heraldy the number is just indicating how many people carried the name. Especially amungst clergy where marriage is traditionally forbidden.

Im aware, I was using the example of regnal name to drive the point that we cant assume they are related merely threw a common regnal name.
A millenia seperates Thordan I from Thordan VII.

[WyrahFhurrst]

Im aware, I was using the example of regnal name to drive the point that we cant assume they are related merely threw a common regnal name.
A millenia seperates Thordan I from Thordan VII.

We also know that the Elezen live to be about 200, so the "Thordan"s have probably been the only Archbishops in the line.