ishgard

[Cilia]

Dragonsong suggests Shiva (the historical one, not the Primal summoned in her supposed likeness) was the original ruler of Ishgard and was on friendly terms with the dragons until something created a rift between them. She then sacrificed herself in some manner to prevent the Dragonsong War, but it was for naught because of some manner of treachery.

So... no, I don't think the real Shiva wanted any of this.

[Frederick22]

Dragonsong suggests Shiva (the historical one, not the Primal summoned in her supposed likeness) was the original ruler of Ishgard and was on friendly terms with the dragons until something created a rift between them. She then sacrificed herself in some manner to prevent the Dragonsong War, but it was for naught because of some manner of treachery.

So... no, I don't think the real Shiva wanted any of this.

Ohh I didnt understand the song that good. I could only understand that the song talk of 2 sides that are fighting and killing themselfs for nothing. That both sides are just being puppets ( the meaning of that there is no one on the throne ) and living a lie.
Bu that shiva was supposed to be the original ruler? o.o what about Thordan and Haldralh ?

[lololink]

Dragonsong suggests Shiva (the historical one, not the Primal summoned in her supposed likeness) was the original ruler of Ishgard and was on friendly terms with the dragons until something created a rift between them. She then sacrificed herself in some manner to prevent the Dragonsong War, but it was for naught because of some manner of treachery.

So... no, I don't think the real Shiva wanted any of this.

Shiva couldn't have been the first leader of Ishgard, the first leaders were Thordan that had a vision from Halone telling him to take Ishgard as their land, they encounter Niddhog that told them "Get out of my mountain !", they got mad, Thordan died, his son, Haldrath, attacked Niddhog and took his eye, becoming the first dragoon and the leader of Ishgard.

[Samcaesar]

Shiva couldn't have been the first leader of Ishgard, the first leaders were Thordan that had a vision from Halone telling him to take Ishgard as their land, they encounter Niddhog that told them "Get out of my mountain !", they got mad, Thordan died, his son, Haldrath, attacked Niddhog and took his eye, becoming the first dragoon and the leader of Ishgard.

Maybe that's just what the Thordan line wants you to think :P Maybe spin it from a tale of rebels causing troubles between the dragons and Ishgardians into a righteous story where Haldrath avenged his father and began Ishgard in his honor.

[Belhi]

Maybe that's just what the Thordan line wants you to think :P Maybe spin it from a tale of rebels causing troubles between the dragons and Ishgardians into a righteous story where Haldrath avenged his father and began Ishgard in his honor.

Well then one thing to ask is who exactly did the Warrior of Light take the form of at the end of the DRG Job story

cause it was an Elezen Male in shining Dragoon armour. That was the 'light' that banished Nidhogg's dark rancor.

[Samcaesar]

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Dunno! Echo causes some weird stuff. I haven't seen the Dragoon's job quests yet (DoM 4 lyf!). Perhaps Haldrath was actually avenging his father, but Thordan isn't some innocent old man and purposely caused trouble due to Ascian influences?