Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
I don't recall ever running into a healer who only wanted to DPS; I have never met a healer who queued up as a healer just to DPS because the queue was faster, and people entering CS doesn't mean they focus on dealing damage rather than healing.
Really? Because I get those like... 35-50% of the time in DF queues, if the content is level 50. It really is an issue; though generally speaking it can be solved with a vote kick if the healer is being a jerk about it. My main issue personally is them doing too much damage(Mostly just holy spam), and while I'm cool with healers DPSing if they're comfortable with it, it should never invalidate the people dedicated to DPS with the longer queues. So seeing things like "We need more attack skills SE can we have Holygajablahblah" or "I want more water spells give me more fluid auras" or "If you take away CS I won't heal and that means no one will heal and you'll never get to do a dungeon again so nyah" both discourages debate of things like balance and makes me wonder how many healers value DPSing above healing. That should not be a thing- the "Healer is DPS with a faster queue" mentality exists because of just how high their damage potential is and how ignorable healing is for the most part when you overgear content.

Personally, I think the best solution is to nerf Cleric Stance, as well(Or holy. Ughhhh holy.). But y'know, not remove it being toggled in combat at all. Though it would solve the problem, it'd overdo it. I recognize any nerfing of healer damage will make healers just shout and cry and claw innocent people and creatures' eyes out because the healing community is the loudest to cry about problems outside the summoners, but I think a simple solution might just be to make Cleric Stance swap a percentage of INT and MND, as opposed to all of it. It'd mean their damage potential isn't enough to outdo DPS in any situation, and that if they mess up stancedancing or something goes wrong their healing isn't entirely destroyed. Maybe like 75-80% instead of 100%.