If you disable cleric stance during combat, when would you use it?

[Ghishlain]

I am actually really curious about precisely how Assize will work, and if/how Cleric will affect it. Well, not too much longer till the expac...

We'll find out and I don't want to say "this is how's it going to be done" but there are a couple of ways to do it

1) The attack portion is based on your INT/MATK and the heal portion based on your MND - therefore it's either a weak heal + potent damage or potent heal + weak damage
2) Heals everyone in some capacity in the AoE (split evenly / everyone gets healed for damage done / etc) based on the amount of damage done for it <<< this feels too OP in my mind
3) Does damaged to the target(s) based on the amount of people hit healedby the AoE <<<< also feels OP in my mind, but not as OP as #2 depending on your layout and the range of the heal
4) Always does a set amount of damage and heal based on character ilvl / weapon MD

Like you said, I guess we'll find out

[Atlaworks]

Snip!

Actually, the inverse of 2 might be neat- make it do damage based on the amount of HP healed by it. So it'd be ideally used after a large raid-hitting mechanic where you'd be doing AoE heals anyway, but you get a nice big hit on a cooldown with it.

[Ghishlain]

Actually, the inverse of 2 might be neat- make it do damage based on the amount of HP healed by it. So it'd be ideally used after a large raid-hitting mechanic where you'd be doing AoE heals anyway, but you get a nice big hit on a cooldown with it.

Yeah, actually that was what I was trying to say for #3, but apparently I fudged that up. lol.

3) Does damage to the target(s) based on the amount of people hit healed by the AoE <<<< also feels OP in my mind, but not as OP as #2 depending on your layout and the range of the heal

Oops

[Risvertasashi]

There are ways to balance #2 and #3... a high MP cost, for example, a long-ish cooldown, some sort of stack management, etc. DPS healing really appeals to me though (I played an assault rifle healer in TSW).

[Sapphic]

I am actually really curious about precisely how Assize will work, and if/how Cleric will affect it. Well, not too much longer till the expac...

Do you think they named it Assize to mock us asking for bigger butts? XD

[Risvertasashi]

Do you think they named it Assize to mock us asking for bigger butts? XD

That, or we're putting in a court minigame. Phoenix Wright, Ace White Mage.

[Saseal]

Could you imagine the shenanigans that can happen if a tank pulls a mob train while you're still in Cleric's and you can't toggle out? Commence the lulz!

Ahahahaa-! *Curls into a ball, sucks thumb and rocks in a corner*
I cry every time tanks/DPS get the heal debuff from bosses - let alone having to heal mass pulls like that.

I think the only time it could be used is a high-geared healer in a super low level dungeon, where you *could* run a good chunk of the dungeon and leave Cleric on the entire way... but would make it difficult if you have low level tanks with low gear ending up over their heads.

Using that formula + soloing content - the healer would have to see and decide to engage to turn Cleric on.... majority of the time, aggro is snagged unintentionally, or something spawned nearby (thank you very much, fates on top of quest areas).... in which case they hadn't expected it and are either without larger heals if left on or, if left off, without good DPS to defend oneself (A good defense is a good offense.... until you're hit within a millimeter of your HP).

[Vid]

I think everyone is looking at this all wrong. We'd be guaranteed a dps slot now! People would just have to cross-class Physick or Cure then we'd all be on the same playing field. Although I'm pretty sure my Cure 1 still heals for more, while in cleric stance, then another person cross-classing it. They could also cross class the marauder skill that lets you leach HP on hit. Then no one would need heals!

In all seriousness though, it would be hilarious if we couldn't take cleric stance off during combat. I'd be kicked out of so many groups. "Sorry, forgot cleric stance was... guys? guys? Where'd everyone go? Why is there a loading scree... oh damn it."

[Nadirah]

Genuinely curious. What are the out-of-combat applications of cleric stance?

Solo play.

[Bigcat9715]

I would hate to be sitting there just waiting for an ally to get hit, so I can heal them. I've played Tera and seen how the healers are in the dungeons. They look bored as hell. If I was stuck in one stance the whole fight I would probably just turn on follow place Eos on sic and go to sleep.