Do the Primals Know Each Other?

[Allyrion]

That scene was clearly scrapped for parts and scored onto ARR's main scenario, but ... they can't just, like, pretend it didn't happen, right? From a story standpoint, we had to have had that conversation with Ifrit in 1572(6A), and then we had the same exact conversation in 5(7U), and nobody thought anything of it. Even weirder, five years ago he said the Paragon made him promise not to harm "the godless blessed" and now he claims the Paragon said we can't be suffered to live, which, okay, but still. We've brought this up before and it's yet to be acknowledged.

What do you think? Did he forget us like everyone else did? Did the Amalj'aa or the aether of the land forget us and thus it was not imbued into him? Does each summoning of Ifrit have its own memory since fire is primarily assocated with consumption and rage? /chinscratch

I also wanted to bring up that this comes to another question on the Primals -
The most basic question, what exactly are they?

I know it seems like a leap to think we have to discuss the existential nature of the primals for this matter, but I think all our preconceptions on the primals are called into question in the Main Story as a main point.
My question is, is the Ifrit of 1.0 even the same Ifrit of 2.0? Do we really know?

Good King Moogle Mog, Shiva and Enkidu are the obvious outliers.
Shiva was a mortal before, but was brought back in Primal form and controlled.
King Moogle Mog was said to not be the real King Moogle Mog by the Moogles we worked with, and didn't have the same characteristics. This King Moogle was a Primal born from a ritual and a wish.
Lastly, Enkidu didn't even need a ritual but only needed the crystals and Gilgamesh's desire. We're not sure it was a Primal, or if this case is even canon, but I still think it's worth considering.

Then there's Pheonix.
Was Pheonix a Primal (maybe Elder) before Louisouix became the Pheonix?
Was he controlling an older Primal? Or did he actually create a new Primal?
The latter bears resemblance to Iceheart's transformation into Shiva.
I wonder if Shiva holds the real Shiva's memories or if it's simply a taken form of Iceheart.

It led me to wonder if not all the Primals were not once a transcended figure from their respective tribes that transformed during a time of need and prayer (with some aether source available, by chance).
A saviour to their people that transcended into godhood and worshipped then on.
If we were ever to summon Phoenix (obviously not a great idea) again, would we actually be summoning Louisouix or would it have a different sentience and memories?

I think the new King Moogle Mog was created on the spot, but does it have the memories, perhaps gotten from the Moogles that summoned him?
Same for Enkidu. I think it believes it's the real Enkidu and it's memories and likeness formed from Gilgamesh's memories of Enkidu.

That's how I question if Ifrit in 2.0 is the same Ifrit of 1.0.
If the beastmen forgot and that's why the new summoned Ifrit may not remember.
Easily, it could just be a case like -

One I can recall is when you meet Minfillia again she comments about not forgetting who you are and how you have echo... but then proceeds to explain what Echo is like we were an ARR player

But the question of their sentience continuing past their death into resummoning is a worthy one.
Particularly when we have created Primals formed from things that were never associated with being some race/entity type called Primal in the first place.
Such as Shiva(clearly not), King Moogle Mog(implied not) and Enkidu (probably not).

But then there's Ramuh, who clearly remembers a lot.
He seems to bear memory that I really doubt the Sylphs that worship him would have, and it's present as true exposition rather than the ramblings of a Primal.
He even doesn't seem to care if we banish him, since we proved ourselves and he'd come back if needed again.
I get a stronger sense he's just going back to some other realm and not getting recreated everytime.
But he's the only one I can really say that of.

I think we'll learn more of Primal nature as we go on.
But Minfilia clearly marks whenever we have things not following the assumptions we've made on the Primals. It's a plot point they seemingly want to address.
I think learning more about the nature of Primals would also be on our way to understanding the Ascians, Hydaelyn and Zodiark.
Maybe even the Archons that were the 12 in human form.
But that's another thread.