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  1. #991
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haibel View Post
    LOL It's so comical to see everybody up in a tissy about text on a screen. SE's game plan is to not say anything, because quite frankly they don't need to.
    there are ways to get rid of them without going /busy if you're on a PC.
    It's comical to think that some people are ok with the current situation. There are a lot of players on PS3 and PS4 so I guess the solution is "Man, all these RMT tells, guess its time to buy a PC". Also, by saying they don't need to is a rather big statement to make by someone, who I am assuming, doesn't work for SE. I'd think they do if they don't want to lose players and want to continue to grow their player base. A chatlog full of spam is a HUGE turnoff to a new player, and a guaranteed way for someone to not want to continue. Add that to the rampant friend requests they send now and its starting to become infuriating. As the OP stated, it's harassment.
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  2. #992
    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    I think this post just put us at 100 pages of developer apathy.
    only if you use the default number of posts per page.
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  3. #993
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haibel View Post
    LOL It's so comical to see everybody up in a tissy about text on a screen. SE's game plan is to not say anything, because quite frankly they don't need to.
    there are ways to get rid of them without going /busy if you're on a PC.
    I have made two reasonable posts in this thread.
    This isn't a 'tissy'. You do not want to see me in a tizzy. You don't want to see me perturbed. You likely don't even want to see me annoyed.
    But if I continually have to deal with these irritating snide dismissals over the few key problems that still orbit this experience I may well be on my way down the road to irate-burg. And it is not a pleasant place to be.
    Are we copacetic Haibel? Are we on the same page here?

    I think it'll be a better experience for everyone if we don't have to deal with it. And I would like to know if the company is actually going to deal with it. And if you don't mind, I am not in the mood for obtuse defense.
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  4. #994
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    Come on Squeenix. It's getting ridiculous.

    Actually, it's been ridiculous for a while now. And clearly you don't give a damn about the non-Japanese.
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  5. #995
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaze2 View Post
    It's comical to think that some people are ok with the current situation. There are a lot of players on PS3 and PS4 so I guess the solution is "Man, all these RMT tells, guess its time to buy a PC". Also, by saying they don't need to is a rather big statement to make by someone, who I am assuming, doesn't work for SE. I'd think they do if they don't want to lose players and want to continue to grow their player base. A chatlog full of spam is a HUGE turnoff to a new player, and a guaranteed way for someone to not want to continue. Add that to the rampant friend requests they send now and its starting to become infuriating. As the OP stated, it's harassment.
    That's actually an interesting point to make. I'm fairly sure if Player A would spam unwanted invites, FRs, and /tells to Player B, that B could report A for harassment. Would a GM take action? Probably, as they would use harassment as the violation committed (a serious offense). Therefore, isn't the lack of effective filtering (see "protection") a subtle statement that SE would give up on offenses, including serious ones, if it were rampant? LOL. Quite a bit of a leap there, but it's slowly beginning to seem plausible.

    Solutions are rather obvious and not difficult in the least to utilize. Like everything else, a fix will come with some potential detriment, but it's not game breaking in the least. For example: making any fix an optional player setting - block incoming Friend Requests (outgoing still allowed) - block /tell from anonymous players or from level of player choice (Friends List excluded) - Right click report (or just a shortcut in general to report for RMT from name dropdown). Would that stop RMT from doing what they do? Of course not... but it'd alleviate WAY more than having nothing at all set up, like it currently is. Oh and let's not forget finally fixing the initial decline of an FR. No means no people... "no" does not mean "hmm I'll say no, then contemplate for the next split second whether that was the right decision as I choose to decline again!"

    I can tell you this much: Heavensward will not be as enjoyable as they think it will be for the NA/EU servers if, like the majority of players, we have sound on for our /tell functions and we sit through story with that crap going off non-stop like it happened for many with the 2.55 ending. RMT will hit hard come the expansion launch or shortly after, if SE has zero plans to filter them. They've always been a company that the devs underestimates the problems their international players face, but in the case of FFXIV, I guess that's not surprising when you don't play among them. Source: Experiencing the impact of RMT, and SE's slow (if not non-existent) approach to stopping them since 2003. I will admit though, the addition of the Bounty Hunter goblins in FFXI was an interesting and awesome measure to combat RMT fishing bots. Didn't stop them, but it reduced their numbers significantly for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    Come on Squeenix. It's getting ridiculous.

    Actually, it's been ridiculous for a while now. And clearly you don't give a damn about the non-Japanese.
    It's likely not that they don't give a damn about the non-JP, it's that they don't understand the magnitude for whatever reason (and perhaps the concerns of non-JP are slightly lower priority... this is sadly NORMAL practice when dealing with international, be it legit reasons or not). Perhaps our CMs/GMs don't/can't properly report the matter to the devs. The devs don't believe how irritable its been. Perhaps they're just afraid to deal with the matter, as stupid as that sounds. Heck, it's possible that by the time they understood how it is, they were so swamped with Heavensward and closing ARR content that they forgot or lowered the priority drastically. Out of sight, out of mind is a VERY real possibility.
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  6. #996
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    /sign
    It started becoming worse on Odin already, and so I went on Ragnarok.

    At first it was prett calm.

    After a 4 months break, I came back to get a random friend request from xbxbdbdm' djlfmfcom, character Lv.1 at Uldah every five minutes.

    Thank god for /busy
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  7. #997
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    Haibel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I have made two reasonable posts in this thread.
    This isn't a 'tissy'. You do not want to see me in a tizzy. You don't want to see me perturbed. You likely don't even want to see me annoyed.
    But if I continually have to deal with these irritating snide dismissals over the few key problems that still orbit this experience I may well be on my way down the road to irate-burg. And it is not a pleasant place to be.
    Are we copacetic Haibel? Are we on the same page here?

    I think it'll be a better experience for everyone if we don't have to deal with it. And I would like to know if the company is actually going to deal with it. And if you don't mind, I am not in the mood for obtuse defense.
    Wasn't singling you out, I just like you because you look fluffy.
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  8. #998
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    Ryan Shori
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    so not even a word yet? at the very least they could give us more blacklist spaces. 1000 minumum please. i grew tired of copy-pasting each grovelling advert into the report feature as its clearly doing nothing. we asked well over a year ago for right-click report but i spose at least we got right-click blacklist.... which is full -.-
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  9. #999
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shori View Post
    so not even a word yet? at the very least they could give us more blacklist spaces. 1000 minumum please. i grew tired of copy-pasting each grovelling advert into the report feature as its clearly doing nothing. we asked well over a year ago for right-click report but i spose at least we got right-click blacklist.... which is full -.-
    or just turn our blacklist/friends list into a checkmark system akin to our real world email, and give the option "clear all" and "clear marked."
    Making the blacklist larger doesn't actually solve the problem. It's like putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound.
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  10. #1000
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shori View Post
    so not even a word yet? at the very least they could give us more blacklist spaces. 1000 minumum please. i grew tired of copy-pasting each grovelling advert into the report feature as its clearly doing nothing. we asked well over a year ago for right-click report but i spose at least we got right-click blacklist.... which is full -.-
    Twenty more days now. Also, this is now over 1,000 posts with still a dead silence from SE.
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