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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    Actually, its better, because it means that those gibberish names cannot be reused.

    The RMT bots are already having to go to 9 characters, because they keep running out of usable new char names to use.
    Does it matter? Gibberish names are Gibberish names. The problem with not deleting names is that they fill up the loadstone character listings with tons of bogus characters. These characters need to be removed so when I do a search for "Karli" I don't get 60,000 responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_Mog View Post
    That's even worse. lol SE should be DELETING those characters too, so they never come back.
    And here's where the problem is. Not the characters... The ACCOUNTS.

    This is why you get the tells, because these RMT pieces of crap basically are on paid accounts. Whether their own or hacked, they are paid accounts.
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    It's time to get Square-Enix to give us the opportunity to contact the Legal and Copyright divisions.

    This is clearly an attempt by the RMT to take over the game and choke out legitimate play.
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    Tocsin Wolndara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcade View Post
    It's time to get Square-Enix to give us the opportunity to contact the Legal and Copyright divisions.

    This is clearly an attempt by the RMT to take over the game and choke out legitimate play.
    I really hope this is a troll post....

    If not, then you really need to play more. if it weren't for the chat spam, you probably would never even have been able to tell that RMT exists. They don't inhibit anyone, because there is no content that is server limited, like shared gathering nodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    If not, then you really need to play more. if it weren't for the chat spam, you probably would never even have been able to tell that RMT exists.
    You must think everyone to be going through life very, very blindly indeed. It would take much more than a little inattention to not notice the bots in this game. Looking the same, moving in the same place at the same time, teleporting. Claiming that the person you quoted would probably "never even have been able to tell" is quite insulting, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    snip.
    The question is, do they actually do anything actively to bother you? or is it just the elitist "if you arent playing the game my way, its cheating and i hate you" attitude that a lot of the players in this game have?

    Honestly, if I see a group of 4 characters moving around in one spot, I couldnt care the slightest. there is zero that they are doing to directly harm my gameplay, and the bots usually keep to themselves. You dont generally see the lvl 50 black mages spamming people. you see level 1's doing so.

    I dont meanliterally that they wouldnt be able to see them, I meant that they wouldnt notice their effects on gameplay. people seem to severely overestimate the damage that bots do, especially with as broken of an economy as FFXIV has. The specialist system in heavensward will fix it slightly, but IMO it will likely still be completely reliant on Bots, unless they eliminate the shard system entirely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    Does it matter? Gibberish names are Gibberish names. The problem with not deleting names is that they fill up the loadstone character listings with tons of bogus characters. These characters need to be removed so when I do a search for "Karli" I don't get 60,000 responses.
    alternatively, someone has a small gibberish name blacklisted. the character gets deleted, and the character gets taken off your blacklist. the next day, a new bot with the EXACT SAME name starts spamming you again, and it looks like SE never even banned the first one.

    Keeping old names is a way to tell that they are at least making an insignificant action against them.
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    Last edited by tocsin; 04-19-2015 at 06:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    The question is, do they actually do anything actively to bother you? or is it just the elitist "if you arent playing the game my way, its cheating and i hate you" attitude that a lot of the players in this game have?
    Is this supposed to be a joke? Botting is cheating no matter how you look at it, and knowing that has nothing whatsoever to do with elitism. It is against the rules, and when people cheat in games, it's rather normal for many who play the game the way it's intended to take offense at it.

    Do you know who else doesn't "do anything actively to bother" me? Drug dealers. And pretty much every single criminal out there. Does that mean I should condone their behaviour? Am I an elitist for having a dislike for people who decide to do things they shouldn't be doing, just because they aren't doing it to me directly?

    Those level 50 bots are the ones bringing in the cash the level 1 bots spam us about. So unless you love being spammed (or buying gil), you really shouldn't be defending bots of any level.
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    Isaac Direstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    The question is, do they actually do anything actively to bother you? or is it just the elitist "if you arent playing the game my way, its cheating and i hate you" attitude that a lot of the players in this game have?
    What? This is not a matter of "playing the game my way", it is cheating. All players are expected to advance through the game, gil buyers are getting more gil through a third-party that SE bans for. Leveling bot are advancing their character using a third-party program that SE bans you for. If this were a single-player game, whether or not someone cheats wouldn't matter, they are only competing against themselves.

    But this is an MMO. Everyone is expected to play by the same rules.

    Now my question to you, do you only disagree with things that directly negatively effect your own gameplay? If so, that's an extremely selfish self-centered attitude.
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    Glen Livet
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    BIND GIL TO ACCOUNT
    SE PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM
    /signed
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    Yosuke Hanamura
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    They multiply.
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