Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
I discounted flare because you do not flare too often outside of a bursty type of scenario, and Enkindle with pet buffs up is probably the strongest burst attack in the game. Similarly, I also discounted pet AoE, as the pets all have a low CD aoe they can use as well.

Similarly, you won't really be AoEing for longer than 30 seconds, if you do SMN is already down because of its mana. This is also a scenario that doesn't come up often.

You cannot also just look at Flare's potency. Flare is awkward to use without cooldowns, and it introduces downtime into their rotation. SMN's AoE is consistent and has no real downtime, so it is steady damage. Furthermore, it takes the place of a Fire II.

Notably, SMN is far better at cleaving fights of low AoE numbers, 2-4 targets where it can efficiently AoE while still doing 90% of single target dps to primary burn target.
No it's not, the highest I've seen enkindle hit is about 2400 and that is with all buffs and with BIS

A Flare non buffed hits for about 3000. I would even say with one stack of atral fie 1 a flare is stronger.