Surecast Enhancements, Please!

[Bhuni]

I did not ask you that either. I reiterate: Then how is surecast superior to swiftcast in any situation? Since Swiftcast will ensure your spells aren't interrupted either, why not just use swiftcast instead? Where did you say that?

You're contradicting yourself. My apologies.

Swiftcast can be used AFTER to recover your interrupted spell from an attack. Surecast is a prebuff to allow no interupts from the enemy during your next cast whilst rooted, cancelling the cast will remove the buff. On attacks that interupt few they may be Surecast is superior.

Surecast is superior to Swiftcast in regards to handling incoming attacks that will interupt your cast not ANY situation where say you have to move for example.

[Atlaworks]

Surecast is superior to Swiftcast in regards to handling incoming attacks that will interupt your cast not ANY situation where say you have to move for example.

How is it superior then? Both will handle incoming attacks that interrupt your cast with equal adequacy.

[Bhuni]

How is it superior then? Both will handle incoming attacks that interrupt your cast with equal adequacy.

I did not say any situation I said where interupted attacks are concerned it's better to prebuff Surecast for whatever attack that can interupt you instead of having to regain your lost GCD by using Swiftcast.

Why would you blow a 60 second cooldown that you can handle an incoming attack with that interupts your cast bar, when you get just Surecast through it which is on cooldown for 30 seconds, you should save Swiftcast for when you need to move or for long casts raise, flare etc.

[Atlaworks]

Why would you blow a 60 second cooldown that you can handle an incoming attack with that interupts your cast bar, when you get just Surecast through it which is on cooldown for 30 seconds, you should save Swiftcast for when you need to move or for long casts raise, flare etc.

Because Swiftcast would still be faster, provided my cast time is longer than one GCD- and why would you blow Swiftcast on a spell that's that quick? Swiftcast literally does everything Surecast does, but better- which has been my platform this whole time.

As a BLM I generally only need to swiftcast a spell once a minute or so anyway- if I'm being attacked I'm either in PvP where Surecast isn't awful and the enemy will just run behind me anyway, and you will always prefer Swiftcast to Surecast for anything like Thunder3, Fire3, Flare, Raise, etc- because it is a net increase in efficiency, due to it being faster as well. Even a traited Surecast doesn't make up for it's deficiencies, because the proc chance is so low.

Your knowledge about the skill and the class that uses it seems lacking. Do you yourself use Surecast? Because, no offense to you, but your posts in this topic seem to be antagonistic and provoking in nature and generally contradicts what every other person in it has said, save one person on the first page.

[Bhuni]

As a BLM I generally only need to swiftcast a spell once a minute or so anyway- if I'm being attacked I'm either in PvP where Surecast isn't awful and the enemy will just run behind me anyway, and you will always prefer Swiftcast to Surecast for anything like Thunder3, Fire3, Flare, Raise, etc- because it is a net increase in efficiency, due to it being faster as well. Even a traited Surecast doesn't make up for it's deficiencies, because the proc chance is so low.

Your knowledge about the skill and the class that uses it seems lacking. Do you yourself use Surecast? Because, no offense to you, but your posts in this topic seem to be antagonistic and provoking in nature and generally contradicts what every other person in it has said, save one person on the first page.

Because BLM is the only job that can use Surecast

[Kuurei]

Because BLM is the only job that can use Surecast

Atla has a point though, even if BLM isn't the only class that can use it. Never once used it over swiftcast on WHM, nor while leveling up Arcanist some. I even mentioned earlier that it's uselessness is made even worse by both skills being cross-classable by all DoMs.

You seem to just be antagonistic for the halibut, and no real other reason. Surecast is useless outside pvp.

[Bhuni]

Atla has a point though, even if BLM isn't the only class that can use it. Never once used it over swiftcast on WHM, nor while leveling up Arcanist some. I even mentioned earlier that it's uselessness is made even worse by both skills being cross-classable by all DoMs.

You seem to just be antagonistic for the halibut, and no real other reason. Surecast is useless outside pvp.

Turn 5's Fireball
Shiva's icicle AOE Rain
Ifrit and Garudas Ultimate attacks oddly enough you only get interupted in HM and not EX unsure about Titan.
Leviathans Ultimate attack think this one applies to EX only.
They're may be other attacks I'm not aware of.

It has some use outside of PVP not as prominent but it's not completely useless in PVE so erm yeah.

[Atlaworks]

Because BLM is the only job that can use Surecast

I never said they were? I included Raise in the example, as well. Black Mages simply tend to have the spells with the longest cast times; that's likely why the skill is native to their class. Thus, they make for a good example of it's uses. limited and inferior to swiftcast as they may be.

[Bhuni]

I never said they were? I included Raise in the example, as well. Black Mages simply tend to have the spells with the longest cast times; that's likely why the skill is native to their class. Thus, they make for a good example of it's uses. limited and inferior to swiftcast as they may be.

Your knowledge about the skill and the class that uses it seems lacking.

Yeah... Also if you read my posts carefully I mentioned you should be saving Swiftcast for Raise before your previous post, it's been fun but I'm done with this thread lol.

[kyuven]

Why would you blow a 60 second cooldown that you can handle an incoming attack with that interupts your cast bar, when you get just Surecast through it which is on cooldown for 30 seconds, you should save Swiftcast for when you need to move or for long casts raise, flare etc.

I'd love to see you prove your words by showing us why it doesn't suck.
Also, making it so a single spell once per 30 seconds isn't interrupted even by movement is hardly gamebreaking.