Surecast Enhancements, Please!

[Mendalas]

TLDR

It sure does feel good though to not get interrupted when generally you would. Feels like I'm cheating or something haha. But in all reality, I would definitely agree to an effect change for the ability overall. It was meant for PVP. But who knows maybe in HW there will be a lot more situations where it is useful.

[Edellis]

Surecast is certainly useful. Just not at all on black mage. (outside PVP anyway)

But while we're at it, can we make Freeze do literally anything other than what it does now?

> "yo BLM needs a spell for lv35 but they don't need anything else, what can we give em? "

> "Just give Blizzard 2 a remote cast."

> "Hey that could actually be usefu-"

> "On GCD. Slower than blizzard II. Weaker than blizzard I"

genius

[ElieDavion]

Surecast is certainly useful. Just not at all on black mage. (outside PVP anyway)

But while we're at it, can we make Freeze do literally anything other than what it does now?

> "yo BLM needs a spell for lv35 but they don't need anything else, what can we give em? "

> "Just give Blizzard 2 a remote cast."

> "Hey that could actually be usefu-"

> "On GCD. Slower than blizzard II. Weaker than blizzard I"

genius

you forgot no range what so ever blizz 2 is the most useless spell after surecast

[SarcasmMisser]

Balance-arguments aside, it'd just be dang fun, so let us have it!

My rebuttal, why not both? What's the harm (beyond the obvious, balance-implications)?

I love these multiple disclaimers. Yes if you, for some reason, arbitrary ignore the one good reason why it's a bad idea it's a good idea.

It's been laid out what the BLM changes are going to be and this isn't it. They're never going to do this. They know better than you. In light of the fact that bard is becoming a bit of a turret DPS as well they know exactly how much movement they want their ranged to have.

[Gamer3427]

I honestly never use Surecast. I can see it having it's merits for skills such as having to hard cast raise/resurrection when Swiftcast is on cooldown, but most of the time you're not going to need that interruption resistance unless your spell has a more than three second cast time. The only other thing I could really see it being used for is countering paralysis's interruption for a healer casting leeches/esuna, and I'm honestly not certain that that would even work as I haven't tried it. If you're not a healer and your healer is up and half way decent then they should be taking care of paralysis for you anyhow so I wouldn't see it being as much of a benefit on DPS....

[ElieDavion]

I honestly never use Surecast. I can see it having it's merits for skills such as having to hard cast raise/resurrection when Swiftcast is on cooldown, but most of the time you're not going to need that interruption resistance unless your spell has a more than three second cast time. The only other thing I could really see it being used for is countering paralysis's interruption for a healer casting leeches/esuna, and I'm honestly not certain that that would even work as I haven't tried it. If you're not a healer and your healer is up and half way decent then they should be taking care of paralysis for you anyhow so I wouldn't see it being as much of a benefit on DPS....

sadly it doesnt help with paralysis or stun

[Gamer3427]

sadly it doesnt help with paralysis or stun

Ah, well there goes my theory about it being useful for anything but reviving really......

[ElieDavion]

surecast only prevents interruption of the cast caused via takeing a certain ammount of dmg and only works on 1 spell it doesnt help with stun paralyze or anything else like that wich makes it a useless ability in my eyes cuz as mentioned before by timing your casts right you can prevent those interruptions altogether

[NozomiKei]

In a year and a half of playing BLM the only three times I've used surecast were when I was trying to improve and make use of less common spells like surecast. I purposely cast it and was confused when it didn't let my spell continue when I moved. Second time was figuring out what happened the first time. Third and last time was when I thought "Surely they didn't actually cripple this ability like this?" and saw that it really did still interrupt my spell when I moved.

Surecast is useless for most anything but pvp and perhaps a few healing situations.

[ElieDavion]

Surecast is useless for most anything but pvp and perhaps a few healing situations.

it is completly useless outside pvp and even in pvp its use is very very limited to the long recast the duration and that it only works on 1 spell