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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Having to turret and hard cast every ability, not just one? Since that's exactly what Black Mages do now?

    When mobility becomes a liability for dps and you are encouraged to maximize your lack of movement to perform higher levels of dps then you can safely say a class is pretty much like a Black Mage because that is exactly how they play right now.

    It's pretty speculative that Minuet will be an always on ability, but I can understand why people would be worried about something like this if it's powerful enough to warrant being always on.
    is a stance , will be always ON

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...RIP-Bard/page8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    is a stance , confirmed by a MOD on this forum
    Not what I meant by always-on. By always-on I mean that you turn on the Minuet song "stance" at the beginning of the fight and it's such a dps increase that you can literally never justify turning it off. If it's that level of powerful I would understand why people would be afraid of just becoming another turret dps (ala black mage), but I think it's pretty speculative to view it that way without actually having people out in the world testing it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Not what I meant by always-on. By always-on I mean that you turn on the Minuet song "stance" at the beginning of the fight and it's such a dps increase that you can literally never justify turning it off. If it's that level of powerful I would understand why people would be afraid of just becoming another turret dps (ala black mage), but I think it's pretty speculative to view it that way without actually having people out in the world testing it out.
    Some fights it would make no sense to keep it on. Think add phase in T11, you're moving constantly, would be better dps to keep it off. This all hinges on if barage gets a new affect while in minuet as well. Barage is such a huge dps boost, it would be hard to justify skipping it in a rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Not what I meant by always-on. By always-on I mean that you turn on the Minuet song "stance" at the beginning of the fight and it's such a dps increase that you can literally never justify turning it off. If it's that level of powerful I would understand why people would be afraid of just becoming another turret dps (ala black mage), but I think it's pretty speculative to view it that way without actually having people out in the world testing it out.
    If it was powerful enough to always keep on, then the whole DPS balancing would be changed...

    It would have to be so strong that during some fights you would out-DPS jobs that you shouldn't be able to. After all, BRDs have the lowest DPS right now, because they have superior utility, and they're really strong in fights where you move a lot... Would make no sense that they suddenly would bring so much DPS.

    Take T13 for example. If you keep WM on even when you get Earthshakers on you, or when he casts Megaflare(unless you get nothing on you), I highly doubt it would be worth keeping it on... It might not even be worth turning it on between the Megaflares and the Earthshakers for all we know. During the adds in P3-4 however, you could use a lot.

    If you want to get the most out of BRD, I'm guessing you will have to manage that song by turning it off and on every time you have to move or are able to stand still for some time. I doubt it will be a DPS increase to do nothing while moving, and then start "channeling" an attack when you stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    If it was powerful enough to always keep on, then the whole DPS balancing would be changed...
    The entire dps balance for this game is changing in 3.0 so I don't know why this would be considered a criticism.

    Also I didn't say anything about Bard dps in relation to other DPS jobs. Just in relation to their own dps and what they would need to do to maximize it based on how powerful Minuet is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    I can't tell what post you were aiming for (seriously, why do people leave it at the default 10 replies per page?). I assume you were aiming for the community rep post, which does not say that it will always be on.
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