HW bard- channeling?

[Instrumentality]

is a stance , confirmed by a MOD on this forum

Not what I meant by always-on. By always-on I mean that you turn on the Minuet song "stance" at the beginning of the fight and it's such a dps increase that you can literally never justify turning it off. If it's that level of powerful I would understand why people would be afraid of just becoming another turret dps (ala black mage), but I think it's pretty speculative to view it that way without actually having people out in the world testing it out.

[LLamaPie]

Bards become black mages. I realize bards currently do less damage than most other classes, but is the best way for us to do higher damage to turn us into one of the other classes? If I want to play like another dps class, why wouldn't I just play as that dps class?

A bards ceiling is lower. That doesn't mean they can't be right on the other classes asses in terms of overall DPS. I know my bard for one tears it up hard and I am pretty sure I come in 1st quite often. The only class that usually way outclasses me is monk at this point and sometimes DRG.

[LLamaPie]

Not what I meant by always-on. By always-on I mean that you turn on the Minuet song "stance" at the beginning of the fight and it's such a dps increase that you can literally never justify turning it off. If it's that level of powerful I would understand why people would be afraid of just becoming another turret dps (ala black mage), but I think it's pretty speculative to view it that way without actually having people out in the world testing it out.

Some fights it would make no sense to keep it on. Think add phase in T11, you're moving constantly, would be better dps to keep it off. This all hinges on if barage gets a new affect while in minuet as well. Barage is such a huge dps boost, it would be hard to justify skipping it in a rotation.

[Viridiana]

is a stance , will be always ON

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...RIP-Bard/page8

I can't tell what post you were aiming for (seriously, why do people leave it at the default 10 replies per page?). I assume you were aiming for the community rep post, which does not say that it will always be on.

[tjw]

In regards to barrage, I have a sneaking suspicion that the attack right after Barrage was linked to it. Kinda like how you can only perform Energy Drain/Bane under Aetherflow, maybe the new skill is only usable while under the effect of Barrage, and consumes the buff after using.

Want to add onto this post that Barrage is indeed used for the weaponskill straight after. The BRD loses a buff just before the weaponskill is used; one can deduce that it was the Barrage debuff used right before. That or Barrage will affect the next ability by increasing its potency.

[Craiger]

Not what I meant by always-on. By always-on I mean that you turn on the Minuet song "stance" at the beginning of the fight and it's such a dps increase that you can literally never justify turning it off. If it's that level of powerful I would understand why people would be afraid of just becoming another turret dps (ala black mage), but I think it's pretty speculative to view it that way without actually having people out in the world testing it out.

If it was powerful enough to always keep on, then the whole DPS balancing would be changed...

It would have to be so strong that during some fights you would out-DPS jobs that you shouldn't be able to. After all, BRDs have the lowest DPS right now, because they have superior utility, and they're really strong in fights where you move a lot... Would make no sense that they suddenly would bring so much DPS.

Take T13 for example. If you keep WM on even when you get Earthshakers on you, or when he casts Megaflare(unless you get nothing on you), I highly doubt it would be worth keeping it on... It might not even be worth turning it on between the Megaflares and the Earthshakers for all we know. During the adds in P3-4 however, you could use a lot.

If you want to get the most out of BRD, I'm guessing you will have to manage that song by turning it off and on every time you have to move or are able to stand still for some time. I doubt it will be a DPS increase to do nothing while moving, and then start "channeling" an attack when you stop.

[Arkenne]

Think of the Odin fight, for example, too.

The whole fight is an AoE mess, moving about is highly important, so BRD is about the one with the most uptime DPS in fights like that, of course, with Minuet off.

And when a Shin-Zantetsuken-like skill comes up, turning Minuet on would make you DPS much higher.

[Instrumentality]

If it was powerful enough to always keep on, then the whole DPS balancing would be changed...

The entire dps balance for this game is changing in 3.0 so I don't know why this would be considered a criticism.

Also I didn't say anything about Bard dps in relation to other DPS jobs. Just in relation to their own dps and what they would need to do to maximize it based on how powerful Minuet is.

[Tilgung]

Translated info from latest event.

Bard
Limit Break changed from Healing to DPS.

Minuet
Gives Bard Casting times in exchange for more damage.
Disables Autoattacks
Does not consume MP
Increases potency values by 25%

Side Winder
Increases the potency of DoTs

[pandabearcat]

You know whats funny though, iirc my damage breakdown had autoattacks be 20%+ for damage contribution for bards...

So...

Minuet does...nothing?