Summoners hope

[Galand]

I don't understand why you keep posting how upset you are that you got Akh Morn. Screw it, as a BLM main I'll take your Akh Morn since you don't want it. You can have your shitty megaflare that our WHM learned how to deal with 5 minutes into t13. Akh Morn? You know that attack that blows shit up like no tomorrow? You don't want that? Ok. I'll take it.!

Can you quote me where I said Iam angry we got Ahk Morn? Oh wait...you cant because you have no idea what your talking about.

Iam upset that we have a laundry list of items wrong with the class, they show off one spell that only what 3% of the population of this game even knows what it is, then all the hardcore diehard fanboys jump on board and forget all of our problems and are praising the second coming of Summoners.

Do you understand that any time we bring up a valid area that needs adjustment everyone now says shut up you get Ahk Morn why are you crying?

[Clarkamite]

No I can't bring up where you said you were angry you got Ahk Morn. I don't want to but I will go back and find your multiple quotes in each Summoner Sad Face thread where you bring up the fact that you were given Ahk Morn instead of Megaflare if you would like.

You may not be angry, but you're not sounding like you're not. Especially not when you keep bringing that up. It's not like you came into this thread, or the last one I saw you in, addressing anything other than, "But we should have gotten Megaflare."

I never said, "Shutup you get Ahk Morn why are you crying?" I just simply addressed your point about getting Ahk Morn. You make it out to be a bad thing because it's not named Megaflare. You don't even sound gracious.

[Galand]

I never said, "Shutup you get Ahk Morn why are you crying?" I just simply addressed your point about getting Ahk Morn. You make it out to be a bad thing because it's not named Megaflare. You don't even sound gracious.

Again your not even reading before you start smashing away at your keyboard, you need to open your eyes and read bro, I never stated that you said anything, I said "people", and at no point do I care about mega flare nor have even mentioned it in my posts.

If you would read correctly as I have stated I am complaining that the lolsmns have tossed out all of our major job problems for one flashy spell

[Clarkamite]

Again your not even reading before you start smashing away at your keyboard, you need to open your eyes and read bro, I never stated that you said anything, I said "people", and at no point do I care about mega flare nor have even mentioned it in my posts.

If you would read correctly as I have stated I am complaining that the lolsmns have tossed out all of our major job problems for one flashy spell

First of all, BRO, I'm not your bro. Secondly, fine you know what? You never said anything about Megaflare? Here I'll go search for you. Give me one second.

I swear people see the stupid light show and did not even listen to anything else and just rampantly defend and go nuts for it. Oh you know that trademark ability of Bahamut that any Final Fantasy fan should recognize..oh wait thats Mega Flare...... WTF is ahk morn? Oh that spell that only 1% of the population has seen, oh okay aim so happy iam getting that

To address your point about me smashing away at my keyboard, I'm doing no such thing. I had a differing opinion to your "upsetness" that you were given Ahk Morn. I made no attacks. Maybe you didn't say me directly when you said, "People," but you were addressing me when I said something about it. I've read everything you've written. Clearly. You on the other hand, I don't know if you even know what you wrote seeing as how you claim you've never cared about Megaflare but, oh look, clearly you do.

[Galand]

Also people keep saying that now Summoners have burst dps.

Excuse me but where did they say this? Yoshi said we spend our first 30 seconds applying dots and building Bahamut aether stacks, THEN you go into Bahamut "trance" where you build energy to spend on Bahamut themed attacks. Iam sorry but that is not burst dps, thats alot of building up and saving stacks of crap to then switch to a stance to build more crap to then spend the crap

[Higashikata]

Iam sorry but that is not burst dps, thats alot of building up and saving stacks of crap to then switch to a stance to build more crap to then spend the crap

whoa, hold on there a second. Building energy then unleashing it at once isn't a burst attack?

This right here make me curious, what is your definition of burst DPS?

[Galand]

whoa, hold on there a second. Building energy then unleashing it at once isn't a burst attack?

This right here make me curious, what is your definition of burst DPS?

My definition of burst dps is what Blackmages do, they have direct control on how and WHEN they blast away at their spells.

Look at summoner now

First 30 seconds to build DOT and Bahamut Aether Stacks.
Second 30 seconds switch to Bahamut stance to then start saving energy to spend on Bahamut themed attacks.

That is not burst dps, burst dps is on the demand right now blast away spells, having to build up stacks and energy or whatever you want to call it is NOT burst dps, and if you take too long you gotta jump back out of it to get your dots going again then jump back into the stance.

[Higashikata]

My definition of burst dps is what Blackmages do, they have direct control on how and WHEN they blast away at their spells.

First 30 seconds to build DOT and Bahamut Aether Stacks.
Second 30 seconds switch to Bahamut stance to then start saving energy to spend on Bahamut themed attacks.

That is not burst dps,

Blackmage:

Goes into umbral ice stance and uses ice spells building MP.
Go into astral fire stance using MP to use fire themed attacks.

Your logic says this is burst DPS, right?

Summoner:
Goes into Aether flow stance using DoTs and building bahamut stacks
Goes into Bahamut stance and starts spending bahamut stacks on bahamut themed attacks.

And this ISN'T burst DPS? You feeling ok man?

BLM can't "burst DPS" while in ice stance and summoner can't burst DPS if not in Bahamut stance.

[Galand]

Dude going into umbral ice to gain your mana back takes seconds to get enough to go back into umbral fire

[Higashikata]

Dude going into umbral ice to gain your mana back takes seconds to get enough to go back into umbral fire

Oh man, I didn't realize that!

But wait, what's that?

They're still the same concept of building and bursting?

Myth busted everyone!