Please do not make group quest open world areas.

[Spawnie]

yesh they should make maps difficult but they also shouldnt focus the whole game purely on group content, ive played games where u needed atleast 2 more people on starting map just to clear quests n kept that way through the whole game lol personally sometimes i like to do my own thing in games n not have to rely on others for everything

[Asierid]

Dunno what all the complaining is about. It will be like it is now:

We hit max level.

Outgear all the content.

"Group open world" stuff becomes solo due to the gear levels.

Enjoy. It won't be challenging at the end anyway.

[Hyrist]

Personally I'm SUPER HAPPY that they're finally bringing actual DANGER to the world. I'm a lover of exploration, and yet, with no threat of anything, it's almost as if they may as well not put monsters there at all...Sneaking around dangerous enemies, hell even dying to some, led to some super fun times with my friends and I XD

Here's an example of what it was like in Mor Dhona back in 1.0

I also remember the servers in 1.0 also being pretty empty...

So... what you're saying is you want empty servers that appeal only to your sense of danger, ok.

Dunno what all the complaining is about. It will be like it is now:

We hit max level.

Outgear all the content.

"Group open world" stuff becomes solo due to the gear levels.

Enjoy. It won't be challenging at the end anyway.

They didn't need to make monsters 'more difficult'.

Even in 1.0 most the monsters could be leashed if you ran far enough. Monsters that were 'dangerous' were so ridiculously over your level they could kill you in one shot at max level. So that sort of argument is pointless.

At Level Monsters should function like FFXI's mobs - Decent challenge. Meaning depending on your class and build, you could take them in chains, but too many could kill you quickly.

The biggest problem with ARR's mobs is their horrendously short leash and agro range. That's what I want to see fixed. Not make it impossible or highly improbable to solo in the open world.

[Coltvoyance]

When it comes to this change, I'll say what I said in a previous post:

"I love that they made the monsters in areas harder. When monsters on a map aren't a threat, they become an annoyance; and I don't like being annoyed when I play... I like being challenged!"

[Hyrist]

When it comes to this change, I'll say what I said in a previous post:

"I love that they made the monsters in areas harder. When monsters on a map aren't a threat, they become an annoyance; and I don't like being annoyed when I play... I like being challenged!"

If they become an undesired obstruction to the goal, no matter what 'challenge' they are, they're going to be annoying.

If they become such an obstruction that your average player cannot cross it alone, then you've destroyed your game. Early 2000's MMO policies are not intelligent policy in 2015. Hopefully it's just slightly tuned in specific areas. Otherwise, we will lose a chunk of people over this, when we're already going to suffer retention issues due to gating.

[Asierid]

Even in 1.0

At Level Monsters should function like FFXI's mobs

Good thing this is neither of those games. We can stop trying to use what older games did as a crutch to an argument now, there is a reason nothing is done that way anymore, and XIV is not going in that direction.

You missed the point where this is what the game has done every single time a new piece of content was added, the same thing will continue to happen because "it makes money". Opinions on 13 year old/dead games don't make money (Specially since 1.0 failed completely and almost made SE go bankrupt since it was SO GOOD apparently).

So. It will continue to be this way. You will outgear it at max level, the content will become irrelevent pretty damn quickly, and you will like it because $$$.

Please look forward to it.

[Cirgellon]

You name MMOs where you claim it didn't work but these type of group areas were great in other mmos, like LoTRO before it went completely solo play. These type of complaints ruined that game and now it'so easy that no one likes it.

[Felis]

Dangerous open world is going to very fun to explore ...unless you are someone who is trying it months after it was relevant and everyone is too busy with endgame to come help you get to your objective in the middle of an enemy camp. I just hope it's not required to progress the story >_<

Months away better equip is out with higher ilevel. If you mean lower than lv 60 then there is still the possibility to get some more levels to make it easier.
Or just don't pull more than 1-2 enemies. Or ask your Chocobo for help. Also start to learn how sight aggro and sound aggro work.

Dunno what all the complaining is about. It will be like it is now:

We hit max level.

Outgear all the content.

"Group open world" stuff becomes solo due to the gear levels.

Enjoy. It won't be challenging at the end anyway.

the difference is that it will not be ilevel outgeared the moment it go live (at least for the lv60 areas), but 3-6 months later.

ou missed the point where this is what the game has done every single time a new piece of content was added, the same thing will continue to happen because "it makes money". Opinions on 13 year old/dead games don't make money (Specially since 1.0 failed completely and almost made SE go bankrupt since it was SO GOOD apparently).

Having level 45 enemies as strong as a lv 45 player and not as a lv 40 player was not the reason 1.0 failed.

[Raist]

Good thing this is neither of those games. We can stop trying to use what older games did as a crutch to an argument now, there is a reason nothing is done that way anymore, and XIV is not going in that direction.

You missed the point where this is what the game has done every single time a new piece of content was added, the same thing will continue to happen because "it makes money". Opinions on 13 year old/dead games don't make money (Specially since 1.0 failed completely and almost made SE go bankrupt since it was SO GOOD apparently).

So. It will continue to be this way. You will outgear it at max level, the content will become irrelevent pretty damn quickly, and you will like it because $$$.

Please look forward to it.

1.0 had more/worse problems then level 75 Widowmakers in Mor Dhona or other mobs like them. There were lots of reasons people left the game then, don't even try to pin it's failings on open world aggro.

[Xatsh]

Making monsters where you can 10-20 at once without risk of death was always bad design in my opinion. The world requires danger to it, has been one of the biggest issues since 2.0 launched, all the mobs just rolled over and let you kill them if you were appropriate level. Honestly you should not be a walking god in a mmo, there should be things in the open world that if you are not careful can kill you even 1 on 1. It is what adds danger to the world.

I always thought it was a joke that me alone could easily kill 10-15 of the Empires fighters at once in Castrum in Mhordona and this is back in the Darklite days of 2.0. I feel the 1.0 mobs were proportional strength. Not the Lvl 70+ stuff obviously but the lvl 50ish mobs in the bstmen strongholds. You could kill them 1 on 1 ok. But if you linked or agroed 3-4 you were more then likely dead unless you got lucky.