doom and gloom

[Spawnie]

why do most people automatically assume the worst when new class/skill info is released??

why not atleast wait n try the new changes first b4 u complain about how bad "insert class here" is

[RaideDuku]

Because internet.

[Spawnie]

Because internet.

sadly this is true lol

[Kiroh]

Because most of us have prior experience with SE that qualifies us to make better guesses at how things will actually be implemented.

[WHS]

Because most of us have prior experience with SE that qualifies us to make better guesses at how things will actually be implemented.

This about a million times this. lol It is so true.

[Vaer]

"new info released, time to complain on the forums"

[Nalien]

I'm excited for everything but Healers (which sound like they're being homogenized...) and Summoner. Think I'm just going to give up on Summoner.

[Averax]

and Summoner. Think I'm just going to give up on Summoner.

Everyone seems to be hating on the SMN changes because they didn't get new egis. Nevermind the fact that the job itself needed some heavy reworking so it actually played like it was fun. But no, we have to get mad about pets, pets we would have been probably forced to choose one of or ignore alltogether (all hail garuda egi).

I'm pleased that they improved the actual playstyle of the job, and i will enjoy taking on Bahamut's power and casting Ahk Morn on all ya faces.

[Khyra]

Everyone seems to be hating on the SMN changes because they didn't get new egis. Nevermind the fact that the job itself needed some heavy reworking so it actually played like it was fun. But no, we have to get mad about pets, pets we would have been probably forced to choose one of or ignore alltogether (all hail garuda egi).

I'm pleased that they improved the actual playstyle of the job, and i will enjoy taking on Bahamut's power and casting Ahk Morn on all ya faces.

Yep. Some people can't get over that its not how they would have designed Summoner, and somehow think SE is going to completely redesign (as opposed to reworking/tweaking) the job to their liking.

Its like the people in FFXI who, years into the game, still complained that RDM was not a melee mage. Like --- I get that you would prefer something else, but at this point obviously the basic concept is set. And some of us REALLY like it!

(Of course I was a main RDM in FFXI and someone who plays SMN in FFXIV a lot... I chose those jobs because I liked their playstyle and basic ideas, not because I thought if I played it enough Square would suddenly redefine the job...)

[Duelle]

Everyone seems to be hating on the SMN changes because they didn't get new egis. Nevermind the fact that the job itself needed some heavy reworking so it actually played like it was fun. But no, we have to get mad about pets, pets we would have been probably forced to choose one of or ignore alltogether (all hail garuda egi).

Pets can be molded to fit encounter situations (like whether you'll be dealing with lots of adds or if the fight only has one target to kill). I think what's gotten to some people is their mentioning of pet glamours, which I take as them saying "yeah, we're not gonna make Leviathan/Ramuh/Shiva-egi, we'll just let you change Ifrit/Titan/Garuda-egi to look like them". To me at least, that's not a good thing.

Yep. Some people can't get over that its not how they would have designed Summoner, and somehow think SE is going to completely redesign (as opposed to reworking/tweaking) the job to their liking.

Some of the things asked for were absolute no-brainers. Like changing Contagion into a SMN ability instead of a Garuda-egi ability.

Its like the people in FFXI who, years into the game, still complained that RDM was not a melee mage. Like --- I get that you would prefer something else, but at this point obviously the basic concept is set. And some of us REALLY like it!

I can't resent your embracing that thing that is the lovechild of an Oracle and a Time Mage, but let's not downplay the melee camp.

Suffice to say, I didn't begin to feel like a Red Mage until Trusts came out. Been doing the free login thing, and having someone tank, someone heal, and someone DPS as I melee/WS/nuke a mob, throw off-heals at my leisure while wielding my firelit sword with NO complains and no requests for Refresh/Haste has been a dream come true. Too bad it took a decade and NPC AIs for it to happen.