doom and gloom

[Callinon]

Like changing Contagion into a SMN ability instead of a Garuda-egi ability.

Quite frankly, we don't know that they didn't do that.

Does anybody honestly think they talked about literally every class/job adjustment in this stream? Because I don't. They talked about what the existing jobs are getting after level 50, and gave a few points regarding changes to their pre-50 kits. We don't know any specifics about anything pre-50 except that Tri-Disaster is now Tri-Bind (though I can't help but think of that as Tri-JustCrossClassBlizz2 still).

We know that existing pets are getting more abilities. Has anyone stopped to consider that the existing pet bars have no room for more buttons? Perhaps some of the existing buttons are being moved to the player. Maybe SMN and SCH will have to slot abilities in to a limited number of slots? We don't know.

It isn't worth complaining about something we know very VERY little about.

[Nestama]

(all hail garuda egi).

Most SMN's use Ifrit now, since he's stronger than Garuda. Especially if a MNK and NIN/WAR are in the party.

[Nalien]

But no, we have to get mad about pets, pets we would have been probably forced to choose one of or ignore alltogether (all hail garuda egi).

That's the issue I have with Summoner on a fundamental level. Rather than making it about rotating the pets (give each a rotation, split their recasts (currently they're shared for no reason), give Summoner the means to actually switch Egi mid-battle (swiftcast II/make the summoning action do something worthwhile for the cast time), they've opted to make it about a single pet which you summon at the start of battle and should last you the whole fight. Not a whole lot of summoning going on for a Job called Summoner...

I mean, Scholar will be sacrificing its fairy, meaning it'll have to resummon it. Machinist they suggested will benefit from alternating pet. Both Jobs do 100% or more summoning than Summoner. The issue I have with Summoner is the same issue I'd have with Dragoon if it had no Jumps, the same issue I'd have with Ninja if it had Ninjutsu. From day one my issue with Summoner has been the lack of actual summoning, what they had I figured was OK assuming they build upon it later with more pets, but rather than doing that they're going backwards; Fully embracing the one Egi to rule them all mentality and seemingly opting for a pet Glamour system instead (unless those comments were jokes).

Personally, I am excited for the WHM changes ^^ being WHM main I really didn't care about any of the other jobs XD, only DRK seemed interesting to me from the live letter though. The additions to WHM sound good though .

Honestly, I might be coming around to the changes. It sounded like they were making the Jobs too similar, but looking over what they actually said I'm at least somewhat interested in Scholar again. Scholar I think lacks any sense of tactical play currently (do I use Aetherflow on Sacred Soil or Lustrate, that's it...) and instead was just a hastily thrown together pet Job, branching it off Arcanist really made the Job suffer IMO, since they needed to turn it from DPS to healer in 20 levels... When I compare it to XIs Scholar (no I don't want a repeat of that) which had a plethora of Stratagems to choose from to enhance spells, XIVs just seems lacking. Luckily they seem to be expanding upon that tactician role more with the new skills, so maybe I spoke too soon.

[Chiramu]

I'm excited for everything but Healers (which sound like they're being homogenized...) and Summoner. Think I'm just going to give up on Summoner.

Personally, I am excited for the WHM changes ^^ being WHM main I really didn't care about any of the other jobs XD, only DRK seemed interesting to me from the live letter though. The additions to WHM sound good though .

[Millerna]

why do most people automatically assume the worst when new class/skill info is released??

why not atleast wait n try the new changes first b4 u complain about how bad "insert class here" is

Because everyone thinks they're better at designing games than people actually designing games. Except, they haven't a clue how to design anything, so instead they just whine about it.

[TruebladeNuke]

Because everyone thinks they're better at designing games than people actually designing games. Except, they haven't a clue how to design anything, so instead they just whine about it.

^ This. Also, "because internet" is true as well.

I said it in a SMN thread... that suddenly moved... but... People WILL complain about everything. "Talking about positive things in a game? What's that? I only see things to complain about!" is the mindset of most players, I swear.

[Kallera]

If part of the "exciting" new changes to your main are drawbacks and questionable utility, while everyone else gets no drawbacks and cool new things that match their role. how the hell do you think I should respond?

[aerialrave]

I'll admit I have some doom and gloom myself. I wanted Chi Blast on Monk (along with several other changes) and there was no mention of a ranged attack at all.
Every player has their own expectations about which way the game direction should be going, and it's quite easy to feel let down when things don't go your way.
It should be a blessing that we get sneak previews like this. It's not a good thing for some people though. I think some people would be better off not hearing about any of the changes in advance at all.
"Try it before you knock it" is a fair argument. We do have to wait and see. It's less than a month away, but that is going to be a month of hell for some people eagerly awaiting this!

[Radacci]

I'll admit I have some doom and gloom myself. I wanted Chi Blast on Monk (along with several other changes) and there was no mention of a ranged attack at all.
Every player has their own expectations about which way the game direction should be going, and it's quite easy to feel let down when things don't go your way.
It should be a blessing that we get sneak previews like this. It's not a good thing for some people though. I think some people would be better off not hearing about any of the changes in advance at all.
"Try it before you knock it" is a fair argument. We do have to wait and see. It's less than a month away, but that is going to be a month of hell for some people eagerly awaiting this!

false hope. it's good to have realistic expectations of what the game will actually be like, not what you want to imagine.

[Amatsuhira]

I'll admit I have some doom and gloom myself. I wanted Chi Blast on Monk (along with several other changes) and there was no mention of a ranged attack at all.
Every player has their own expectations about which way the game direction should be going, and it's quite easy to feel let down when things don't go your way.
It should be a blessing that we get sneak previews like this. It's not a good thing for some people though. I think some people would be better off not hearing about any of the changes in advance at all.
"Try it before you knock it" is a fair argument. We do have to wait and see. It's less than a month away, but that is going to be a month of hell for some people eagerly awaiting this!

Zana Lyehga @ level 25 still has Hundred Fists but we got ours taken away. Good times. More oversight please.