RIP summoner

[Galand]

People keep saying oh don't rely on the previous games when it comes to Summoner and its job.

So you mean to tell me people who decided to play their current jobs with no notion of their previous iterations?

Paladins tank
White Mages heal
Monks do melee damage
Blackmages use spells to deal damage.
Bards to ranged damage and support.
Warriors are melee damage oriented tanks

Summoners should be summoners who use their "pets" to deal damage, not be a simple poison mage with lame mechanics that don't flow together correctly.

Don't tell me people decided to play their job randomly and just stuck with it, they did so with a pre-concieved notion of what that job does historically.

[TheFatHousecat]

Summoners should be summoners who use their "pets" to deal damage

And that is, in fact, literally what they are. You just don't like the particulars of how they deal damage or what their damage-dealing looks like.

People could apply the principle of your argument to all the other classes and gripe just as hard. At this point you're just looking for any excuse to complain about how the job doesn't cater specifically to your preferences and expectations, and you try to convince us all that your position is unique and justified.

K.jpg, well thanks for reinforcing the "typical smn" stereotype that's been around since 2004 FFXI

[Lemuria]

And that is, in fact, literally what they are. You just don't like the particulars of how they deal damage or what their damage-dealing looks like.

Wait, pets do damage now? Stop the press, this is the first time I've heard of that!

Truth be told though, our pets deal only a third of the overall damage. Most of it is from DoTs and abilities like Fester. Their low recast times and their relatively weak damage will not make them contenders for MVP.

[Imoye]

Wait, pets do damage now? Stop the press, this is the first time I've heard of that!

Truth be told though, our pets deal only a third of the overall damage. Most of it is from DoTs and abilities like Fester. Their low recast times and their relatively weak damage will not make them contenders for MVP.

ONLY? 30% of your damage is huge. Definitely more than significant.

My problem with the egis are purely cosmetic and how lame the abilities are. Especially the signature ability having a 5 min CD and a really lame animation. The egis just look like a ball of plasticine mashed together. Took them 5 min tops to design those, and the fact that they can't even be bothered giving us some decent looking pets tells me this is a job they're never going to improve. So you might as well reroll right now.

Personally I'm going Astro.

[Tilgung]

Wait, pets do damage now? Stop the press, this is the first time I've heard of that!

Truth be told though, our pets deal only a third of the overall damage. Most of it is from DoTs and abilities like Fester. Their low recast times and their relatively weak damage will not make them contenders for MVP.

The 30%ish damage your Egi outputs is fairly large, actually. That's basically the damage contribution auto-attacks provide for melee DPS and (current) Bards. It really is a big deal. Without them, SMN would be absolute trash for all content.

[Felis]

Summoners should be summoners who use their "pets" to deal damage, not be a simple poison mage with lame mechanics that don't flow together correctly.

Don't tell me people decided to play their job randomly and just stuck with it, they did so with a pre-concieved notion of what that job does historically.

Summoner summon Bahamut's head, Bahamut's head do his attack and vanish. Don't sound this like the classic Summoners (without the 5 minute cutscenes) ? Summoners don't need pets, just something to summon.