Solo dungeons and raids!

[Yukiko]

whats a mmorpg?Massively multiplayer online role-playing game, your probly better off playing a single player if u wanna solo dungens

I think MMORPG is not the best game for you, you are seeking for a MMOGRPG...

Massively Multiplayer Online (thats the network setting and not the gamestyle!)
Group (i just came up with that)
Role Play Game (thats the genre, we are playing a RPG)

You assume everyone have to play a MMOFGRPG (MMO Forced Group RPG)
Massively Multiplayer Online is nothing more than having a world where many many players are online interacting with! (interacting with the world, not with each other!)
Simply by using the chat i am already playing a MMORPG, just saying "hi" is enough... it is not necessary to go into dungeons or do anything else with "others". By choosing to be evil and playerkill (refering to other games) you mostly act alone from the shadows while still interacting (that means killing other players)... Where you begin to interact with other players is the genre, as RPG (mostly in medievil age with magic and swords) players are trading or grouping and so on. Your illusion of MMO beeing group play is wrong, sorry! They problem is that as RPG you are not in a group from the very beginning and even later on you mostly write your own story - hell, do you even read books? Does any Hero need a group? You go in a dungeon alone and come out with 2 friends, or you go in a dungeon with 8 and come out with 3... thats RPG and storytelling!

It is this "freedome" what makes a good MMORPG and not the group play! If you did not realise the genre we are in, then you may should search for a team oriented first person shooter (MMOFPS)

[Gralna]

You go in a dungeon alone and come out with 2 friends, or you go in a dungeon with 8 and come out with 3... thats RPG and storytelling!

hmm, that quote gave me a neat idea, Iron Man Difficulty, if you die in the instance, you are automatically kicked and spot isn't replaced, when all players die, the instance ends :P

[Rhaja]

hmm, that quote gave me a neat idea, Iron Man Difficulty, if you die in the instance, you are automatically kicked and spot isn't replaced, when all players die, the instance ends :P

=O I'm going to propose that to my FC! Course with weaker gear. Maybe current accessories, AF1 armor and modern weapon? Maybe up it to the i90 AF versions.

[KisaiTenshi]

Square Enix could pull one page from PSO2...

Dynamic dungeon parties. For those of you have never played PSO2, some of the dungeon instances work like this:

You enter with your party, and the first 20% of the dungeon you are in is your instance, when you get to the "center" of the dungeon, your party and any of the other parties are dynamically connected to a larger instance with a larger boss or a "eliminate all the monsters" type of instance, and then the last 20% still leads to your instanced boss room.

Sometimes you will enter and there will simply not be other parties. How it works as I've ever been able to play is that you don't really know if it's other players or AI players. Incidentally, PSO2 lets you pull AI versions of your friends into your prep instances (that's also where you end up when you "die") , so that does solve the need for additional players that are missing, but AI players only really provide a baseline role, not something you can speedpull with.

[Xatsh]

It is this "freedome" what makes a good MMORPG and not the group play! If you did not realise the genre we are in, then you may should search for a team oriented first person shooter (MMOFPS)

IT all depends on what is a mmorpg....

The traditional definition is a virtual world where it is a group focused endless game.

The whole concept of a mmorpg just being a game with alot of people playing is a recent concept.

When people started calling Diablo, World of Tanks, LoL, Destiny and Path of Exile MMOs, which honestly None of them are. THey are Mobas and Dungeon Crawlers.

SO regardless of your defintion to me and many many others.... mmos require group play, the forced grouping is what defines a mmo as a mmo. IF you do not want to group... DO NOT PLAY MMOs.

[RylaiBluecrow]

To all the people yelling why aren't you playing single player games then?

Umm because i like games... in general...?

[Teppie]

Why not just make main scenario events include a 10-20 minute solo dungeon, just a side little fun thing like what we already have to sort of immerse yourself in the plot more.

[Akuryu]

Why not just make main scenario events include a 10-20 minute solo dungeon, just a side little fun thing like what we already have to sort of immerse yourself in the plot more.

Development resources are finite. If the game shifted focus to more single player content, the multiplayer game that we all signed up for will suffer. Developing solo content would take time and effort better spent elsewhere. If the choice is 3 new multiplayer dungeons, or 2 new multiplayer dungeons and a solo dungeon I'll do once then never again, I'll take the 3 multiplayer.

I'm also going to guess that single player instances would absolutely wreck the instance servers. Know how when a new Zodiac quest comes along, the instance servers slow down due to congestion? Imagine these single player ones piling up. Example: If 1000 people are farming Garuda for light, that's 125 instances of Garuda. If 1000 players are grinding solo dungeons, that's 1000 instances.

[XgungraveX]

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name me a couple of single player mmorogs that u can beat dungeons and raids without having any other players or npcw involved what so ever...

[Cakekizy]

name me a couple of single player mmorogs that u can beat dungeons and raids without having any other players or npcw involved what so ever...

Everquest and World of Warcraft.