About 3.1 Relic

[Arkenne]

Well, for starters this was a given, the weapon that now are the strongest you can get becoming obsolete later, that is.

What would the point of new relics be if they are weaker than the ones we find in the 2.0 series otherwise?
We are having an easer time than those who dont have it. They said that. Maybe slightly, maybe remarkably notisable... no one knows, just like we dont know when the 3.1 will come out, too.

But lets remember the Atma pre buff version, the Animus books pre nerf version, the Alexendrite pre buff version. These guys have shown us they can put quite the astonishingly time consuming tasks for the sake of attaining that one raidless-requiring end-game stats personalized tools of mass murder. Which of course I, like anyone else, cant confirm you wether they will be customizable. But I believe they will since thats a charm for the relics by now.

In the end its up to personal preference if one wants to put up with it to the end, but we know nothing about what they will bring us up against, or when the patch will happen, or how much worth has our zeta for it. I mean, what if this new relic from 3.1 takes a toll of work to make comparable to attaining the Relic from 2.0 from the starter Relic to the Zeta version??

[Aikaal]

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Like you mentioned. Atma grind and atma books before the nerf and even with the nerf, it would take someone spending 8-10 hours a day on relic at least a week or two to get a Zeta. People took from Zenith to Animus a week to get. What,s the point to grind the relic now if you're gonna save less time than it takes?

My argument remains... The Relic is pointless now. What's the point to call Relic BiS on content that've been nerfed (Echo) Relic would worth only if you get someone permenently that new players won't get and would understand like a mount or title.

[Arkenne]

*counter argument*

Well, you did mention we get the «Z» title so thats something you are contradicting yourself in... but that doesnt matter *toss that card away since I dont wanna derail*

Pointless? Well, I won't lie to say that I find it pointless to make a second one, specially now. But as someone who already has a Zeta for his main class, I dont feel it was a pointless achievement, in my personal opinion, like yours is very yours.

1st Zeta does feel very good to get, imo.
2nd one? Err, no thank you.

But then again, pointless? Isnt that rather the depressing way to look at this?

As I said, we know nothing about what they will bring, I presented those examples as ideas of what could possibly come forth and that maybe the Zetas could somehow alleviate...

So, since there is nothing, it is just as worthless to make them as they are worth to make... there are just too many unkowns:

- 3.1 Release (when?)
- 3.1 Relics (what will they require?)
- Usefulness of the 2.0 relics for the 3.0 content (isnt lvl 55 gears supposed to surpass them as well as all ilvl 130 gears?)
- Experience required to reach lvl 60 (there is supposed to be a 50 hours worth of storyline with cutscenes and all that covers from lvl 51 to 60 for one job, maybe, how much experience will be exactly required to reach the new lvl cap?)

If anything, even the idea that Zetas will be used and help boost the start up of 3.1 relics has a grade of uncertainty... as in... will they really count at all?

One thing they do give tho, that a new player definitely won't have, is the possibility of glamouring the new weapons with them. And that example was already given :/