Thread: About 3.1 Relic

I don't know if anyone made a post already...

I find it slightly annoying the only reward to have grind a Zeta is to make the first step of 3.1 easier. Don't get me wrong, I guess it's nice it's gonna be easier but it does not motivate me to finish my WHM relic because at this stage, it's completely pointless.

What I mean is I've grinded my relic when the grind wasn't nerfed. It won't bother me to skip The Animus to Zeta grind to deal with that extra grind for 3.1 Relic. For my Black Mage, at least, the difference between Dreadwyrm Staff and Lilith Rod Zeta is about 1 int DPS gain. Granted, it helps the none-raiders but nothing more.

As far as I am aware, the only thing you gain from doing this relic now is the title <Z> which you'll be able to get in Heavenwards I'm assuming. I was hoping when expansion would come I'd get something permanent for all my work like an item, mount, minion, title that won't be obtainable like Feats of Strength in WoW. This does not affect gameplay, it only rewards the old players that worked to get it.

Originally Posted by Canadane

Well you would have an i135 weapon with your personal tailored stats to use for not only this next month, but probably far into levelling up towards 60.
So it's not completely pointless at all.

Unless you're changing your main to one of the new 3.0 jobs.

Sobsob.

You had a really good weapon, now you have a really cool glamour. If you're bringing WoW into it, you still can't transmog a legendary, and only a few legendary items or achievements were only obtainable for a limited time (I can only think of Medivh's staff and the stupid cloak, off the top of my head).

Customized stats is a weak argument imho. My relic is capped Spell Speed and Det. I could deal with capped Spell speed and accuracy and work around gear and just do fine. We can also assume new relics will either have perfect stats for the job or weak stats again. One reason the made it customizable I feel was because you had relics like Scholar and Summoner that does not appreciate spell speed. It was pointless to get relic compared to end-game raid weapons. Unless you don't raid.

Also, can someone confirms stats customization will have an impact on 3.1 relic? To me, it sounds like it might be used as a catalyst to fuel a brand new weapon that will replace a catalyst you'd have to grind normally.

The problem is I highly doubt we'll keep our stats customization. It is unfair for new players that joined the game in Heavensward to have a relic with none min-max stats compared to other players that can. I find it really hard also to give the exact same item to a player that used his Zeta to keep his customed stats and another that didn't use a Zeta.

I think it's just an item to avoid you grinding other items. This is why I'd appreciate to gain something that is just prestige. I don't want to have an unfair advantage that will make me better but something to display I worked to get my relic.

Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Unless you're changing your main to one of the new 3.0 jobs.

Sobsob.

This is an issue also, new jobs just won't use a Zeta for their weapon.

When relic was first introduced noone knew how it would end.

Me personally i dont care if the weapon becomes nothin but a glamour piece.

But if all we get after spending millions of gil and countless hours into it is a "easier" start to the new relic grind then i will feel very sad indeed and most likely wont be going for the next relic.

Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer

When relic was first introduced noone knew how it would end.

Me personally i dont care if the weapon becomes nothin but a glamour piece.

But if all we get after spending millions of gil and countless hours into it is a "easier" start to the new relic grind then i will feel very sad indeed and most likely wont be going for the next relic.

This is the main issue, why invest in yet another relic? If you're just going to take a dump on the months of grinding any millions of gil sunk into it, only to completely make your efforts obsolete? This pretty much magnifies the fact that the relic quest is just horribly designed.

This hurts newer players more than anyone else, as they were not able to take advantage of "the best weapon in the game" for a reasonable period of time, and now they are stuck with a soon-to-be obsolete weapon, with no refund of investments.

I just hope that anything in the future is linked to worthwhile challenges over meaningless grinding of low level stuff to increase your ilevel to the max, which is confusing. We went from fun/challenging boss fights to face rolling trash mobs.
Also to your point, the feeling you are going through right now has happened to quite a few of us multiple times over the last couple years, it's disheartening and I hope they really fix the overall system.
Maybe with them finally getting ahead of the game, they can do more on oversight.
An old Example is Savage Blade and Skull sunder being pld/war cross class. never would you use them, but then keen flurry is lancer and yea we dont get to play with that misplaced skill.