Land Needs Are Unmet on Balmung

[Madjames]

Someone is selling a small on Balmung in Mists for 40 mil... That's 40 mil to relinquish the plot that's NOT tied to a FC. Then possibly 4-5 mil to buy the actual plot itself. This is ridiculous.

This is the demand price, get used to it. This is the housing market and you need to understand that it is PLAYER driven. Someone yesterday sold a small on my server (Siren) for 20mil because they liked the location and where it was (lavender beds). You may not like the housing market but thats the way it is. I do not like the housing market IRL but they sell for what they sell for because the demand is high and people want a place of their own. I was lucky enough to get a good sized home for my family last year and it is worth 40 grand More now then it was when we purchased it. The market is the way it is.

You can NOT ask someone to relinquish the land they paid millions for without a profit at all. If that were the case, any house I purchase I will sit on and NEVER relinquish until this game goes under. Other people will do the same until SE either allows the housing market to continue to boom and make it an actual market like IRL and in Ultima Online, or they FORCE people to lose their homes.

[Grimmel]

This is the demand price, get used to it. This is the housing market and you need to understand that it is PLAYER driven. Someone yesterday sold a small on my server (Siren) for 20mil because they liked the location and where it was (lavender beds). You may not like the housing market but thats the way it is. I do not like the housing market IRL but they sell for what they sell for because the demand is high and people want a place of their own. I was lucky enough to get a good sized home for my family last year and it is worth 40 grand More now then it was when we purchased it. The market is the way it is.

You can NOT ask someone to relinquish the land they paid millions for without a profit at all. If that were the case, any house I purchase I will sit on and NEVER relinquish until this game goes under. Other people will do the same until SE either allows the housing market to continue to boom and make it an actual market like IRL and in Ultima Online, or they FORCE people to lose their homes.

This is what is NOT ok. This is NOT real life. Real Life things SHOULD not have to apply to a video game much less an MMO. We should NOT have to play Real Estate in a game that is meant to be an escape from the real world.

I know how real world economy works, you don't need to school me like I'm a pre-teen. But bringing real world economy into an MMO is something that SHOULD never step foot into one.
If I wanted to play real world economics I wouldn't do it in a video game. What happens when you quit this game or in 20 years they take it down? Do you suddenly die? No. Because it's not real. Therefore real life should NOT pertain to MMO's and video game fantasy worlds.

Keyword.. FANTASY. Not Non-Fiction. Fiction. Meaning Not Real. Not Pertaining to be True to a Real World scenario.

[Verdan]

Or they actually make housing a thing for people and give us enough plots. Only the desperate are reacting to your personal housing market, most people go "welp, can't buy a house."

[nemises15]

i dont care where the house is people should not be selling their houses for more than what people can actually earn, i mean it takes 24 hours just to get 4 leve quests things and you only get around 200-400 gil and the quests are bad to cos you only get between 100-200 gil making it impossible to get the certain amount neede to buy the house and it seems like if you want a house you need to be in a free company that way you can pool all your money into one lot and buy the house, it is rediculous to sell housing for roughly 18million gill to someone who cant even acquire that amount and i dont think i am supposed to mention this but when the elder scrolls online comes out there will be no housing in that game so is there any chance the producers can make getting a house in this game a lot easier please that way you get to keep your subscribers or at least make this game a free to play game with no subscriptions

[tocsin]

This is what is NOT ok. This is NOT real life. Real Life things SHOULD not have to apply to a video game much less an MMO. We should NOT have to play Real Estate in a game that is meant to be an escape from the real world.

I know how real world economy works, you don't need to school me like I'm a pre-teen. But bringing real world economy into an MMO is something that SHOULD never step foot into one.
If I wanted to play real world economics I wouldn't do it in a video game. What happens when you quit this game or in 20 years they take it down? Do you suddenly die? No. Because it's not real. Therefore real life should NOT pertain to MMO's and video game fantasy worlds.

Keyword.. FANTASY. Not Non-Fiction. Fiction. Meaning Not Real. Not Pertaining to be True to a Real World scenario.

Its valid to have an opinion. now here is mine:

I play this game for the semi real world economy. so do a lot of people. Thats what keeps me subbing, and what keeps money going into SE's pockets. I also pay for the extra retainers, because its 100% worth it to me.

The game is what you make of it. Personally, I wish SE would do more features like they did housing. Airships, Ventures, Mining claims, Teleports, equipment, Raid access, lets make them all player value driven! I want to have more fun with this game, and this is how you do it!

i dont care where the house is people should not be selling their houses for more than what people can actually earn, i mean it takes 24 hours just to get 4 leve quests things and you only get around 200-400 gil and the quests are bad to cos you only get between 100-200 gil making it impossible to get the certain amount neede to buy the house and it seems like if you want a house you need to be in a free company that way you can pool all your money into one lot and buy the house, it is rediculous to sell housing for roughly 18million gill to someone who cant even acquire that amount and i dont think i am supposed to mention this but when the elder scrolls online comes out there will be no housing in that game so is there any chance the producers can make getting a house in this game a lot easier please that way you get to keep your subscribers or at least make this game a free to play game with no subscriptions

Dude, if you arent making money, that doesnt mean that its impossible to do. Gil is ridiculously easy to make. I mean, just desynth bridesmaid shoes and sell what comes out, and you can make a 500k plus a day, without even having any crafts above 30. figuratively, Gil falls from trees, shoots out from every fountain, and is spoonfed in our daily diet. if you arent grabbing it, thats completely on you.

Personally, I think they released houses too cheaply. if they were more expensive, as in at least marginally on the profit you make from having one, at least there would be less people just buying and leaving.

I have an FC and a personal house, and I support a weekly maintenance fee of 1 mil a week to keep the plot. Housing problem solved.

[Riepah]

The game is what you make of it. Personally, I wish SE would do more features like they did housing. Airships, Ventures, Mining claims, Teleports, equipment, Raid access, lets make them all player value driven! I want to have more fun with this game, and this is how you do it!

If they made these changes you are suggesting, you wouldn't have anyone to sell your stuff to anymore, because people would quit in droves.

[Verdan]

That man is built of bad ideas.

[tocsin]

That man is built of bad ideas.

Bad ideas and bollocks, I can completely agree.

I'm just saying, this game has a MAJOR imbalance between the amount of gil we receive, and the number of options to spend it on. I'm sitting here with enough money to buy 3 large houses, and I have nothing else to spend it on. gear? got it with tomes. minions? bought em. houses? have 2 larges total. I literally give gil away 2-3 times a week, just to get rid of the amounts of surplus that the game mechanics rain upon us. That, my friends, is something I wish they could address.

I dont care if they nerf the gil fountains, or if they add more gil sinks, as long as they do SOMETHING ill be happy.

[Verdan]

A lack of gil sinks is a major concern, I agree. What it means is that the rich get ever richer cause once you've melded all your stuff there's literally nothing you have to spend money on anymore. Repairs aren't a problem, especially if you're a megacrafter(Which, BTW: Not everyone is! And that's OK, and the game shouldn't only belong to them!). Teleports aren't an issue. Nothing takes away your money cause you have nothing to spend it on. This, by the way, is exacerbated by limited housing, because it is a closed system. After the houses are established, there's nothing else anyone's gonna buy related to housing.

Which is exactly why player driven economies are a bad idea in this game. You have people who've been pooling money since this game was so bad they burned it to the ground and rebuilt it, how could making people have to directly compete with each other for things like the ability to mine a resource or travel from point to point even work? It'd just become another thing for the super super rich to play with. And that's bad, because this game is not restrictive at all. You can be everything. 20 dudes can whack the same 'unspoiled' node. There's like one real end game raid and it's in the duty finder. This game is about experiencing things, not stopping others from experiencing things.

[nemises15]

its not just the gil people in FC are also buying personal houses making it impossible for people who are not in a FC to buy a house and houses are being sold when they were between 1 and 2 mill then there is building which costs 1 million to build the walls and roof so you are talking around 3-4 million gil for a personal house so how is that easier