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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    You're right, this "brainless playerbase" is big. In fact, it's so big that it has become one of the primary type of players playing MMORPGs.

    This herd of idiots, as you call them, are keeping the game alive.

    The least you can do is accept that they should be able to purchase Heavensward and keep paying their monstly sub so SE can make the hard content you want.

    FFXIV is designed to have content appealing for as much player types as possible.
    The idiots are not leaving and they will keep having content made to match their needs and expectations, just like you also do have content matching your needs.
    Deal with it.
    yup, and then there's the kardashians. it's mostly idiots that keep them going too.
    as long as the kardashians make money, all is good. the more money they make, the more crazy stuff they can come up with, that cater to the idiots that feed them.
    so what's the problem? the kardashians, or the ppl that make them rich?

    i dont need hard content, i want fun content. SoF was easy and fun. stupid ppl force it into content you can afk through. might as well just remove the fighting, and have a cutscene instead, where our character stand there like a turd, and have sidekicks, do the fighting for us. that would have been better than nerfing the content.
    i'm not complaining about content aimed at many different ppl, that's a good thing. but if you want me to deal with that, maybe ppl can deal with it, that there's content they need to cooperate for, to complete? It's an MMO after all.
    It didn't even take a lot to clear it. only to use your brain a little bit. Again, it's end-game story...if you got that far, it should be a cake to go through it. If it's a problem, just ask friends to help you with it, instead of whining after nerfs.
    yah and the fight was designed to be as how it was released, so your argument about content appealing to the masses, is kind of meh. Even the devs are overestimating the brain capacity of the masses; having to nerf easy content. They made it easy to begin with, to appeal to the masses. I'm sure they are rolling their eyes too.
    There's plenty of hardcore games, that do well...like demon souls/bloodborne. SE don't "need" to cater to low-tier playerbase; they could have made the game more difficult (as XI supposedly was) and it would still have done well, since more HC ppl would have stayed.
    Oh i can deal with it. I don't care about coil nerfs and such, as long as i can clear it before the nerfs. I'm just dumbfounded as to why ppl are having such trouble with such an easy fight, to the point that SE had to drastically nerf it. Why can't ppl just learn to cooperate, instead of crying?
    In the future, ppl will never again have the opportunity to play the content, as it was initially designed.
    I would have hated to start playing now, and getting carried through all the nerfed/easy coils. Would have been boring, and i'd ended up quitting probably.
    You can never make everyone happy. Every time you try to appease someone, you anger others, and ppl leave regardless. So they should just stay with what they release. and as you told me, ppl can just deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    SE don't "need" to cater to low-tier playerbase
    Contradicting yourself from a sentence to another aside, with this one you clearly show us that you have absolutly no idea what kind of player are currently making the MMORPG playerbase, and that you don't know how the market is evolving either.

    Wanting "these idiots" to go away is just simply not an option. That's what I meant by "deal with it", it was actually not a trolling attempt. You have to deal with the market evolving and the need to adjust content to the masses (really, the word speaks for itself), especially when said content is needed to get to the very first expension of the game.

    You are underestimating the impact and the consequences if you suddenly remove half of the playerbase just because they are not above the average skill level.

    Besides, the fact that you find that fight easy doesn't mean that it was for everyone. Again, you are ignoring a big part of the community by simply thinking that your experience with this fight is the same for everyone. It's not. SE have the numbers, you don't. If they though that it was needed to increase the number of people able to complete this trial, so be it, we are not making the game, they are.

    On a final note: why do you even care? You've cleared this content already and have no need to go back to it. The only reason why you would do it is because it's a part of the Trial Roulette. Even then, I'm pretty sure that you don't want to deal with bad people making your runs a failure over and over again or even people leaving just before the fight even start.
    You have absolutly no valid reason to ask for this fight to remain like it was at launch. None.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Contradicting yourself from a sentence to another aside, with this one you clearly show us that you have absolutly no idea what kind of player are currently making the MMORPG playerbase, and that you don't know how the market is evolving either.
    Wanting "these idiots" to go away is just simply not an option. That's what I meant by "deal with it", it was actually not a trolling attempt. You have to deal with the market evolving and the need to adjust content to the masses (really, the word speaks for itself), especially when said content is needed to get to the very first expension of the game.

    You are underestimating the impact and the consequences if you suddenly remove half of the playerbase just because they are not above the average skill level.

    Besides, the fact that you find that fight easy doesn't mean that it was for everyone. Again, you are ignoring a big part of the community by simply thinking that your experience with this fight is the same for everyone. It's not. SE have the numbers, you don't. If they though that it was needed to increase the number of people able to complete this trial, so be it, we are not making the game, they are.

    On a final note: why do you even care? You've cleared this content already and have no need to go back to it. The only reason why you would do it is because it's a part of the Trial Roulette. Even then, I'm pretty sure that you don't want to deal with bad people making your runs a failure over and over again or even people leaving just before the fight even start.
    You have absolutly no valid reason to ask for this fight to remain like it was at launch. None.
    i don't want the playerbase to go away, i want them to stop complaining about easy fights, and learn to cooperate, and clear it.
    i know that everyone have different skill level, but as i stated, if you can get to SoF, you should be able to clear it. If you think it's a bit tough, then practice until you get it down.
    the fight comprise of healers healing, tanks pulling mobs, DD doing cannons. how is that different from any other content? what exactly about the fight is so difficult that so many ppl can't clear it?

    I care because they will keep making content easier, to cater to the masses, which means the game will be less exciting/fun to play and i'll probably quit.
    I care because there's not gonna be any point in even having any fights at all, since you don't really have to "participate" to clear it. Where's it gonna stop? like the first solo fights in the story, where pap and yda fight the boss for you, and heal you while you deal with adds? they might as well stop making trial content, since ppl don't want/can't cooperate.
    I think it's a valid reason to keep it that way, cause SE released it that way. And for ppl to make an effort to learn the fight, and clear it on their own merit, instead of getting carried. Maybe that way they could enjoy the game a little bit more. Personally i don't like getting carried, i want to clear it cause i can.
    Also the fight IS easy, as i outlined above, there's really nothing new in the fight, except maybe timing spears, and how hard is that to figure out? If you're new, just heal/tank as usual, if you're DD, do cannons....i just don't see where the difficulty is. It's incomprehensible that ppl find it hard, and need nerf.
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