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    Lilyarel's Avatar
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    Lucceia Verres
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    Am I the only one that sort of kinda likes the nerf to SoF?

    The problem with the Trial was that youre asking a random group of people over the internet to cooperate. That usually almost never ends well. With the boss having less HP than before, you can still have a chance of winning even if you miss a large cannon shot. I'm all for difficult gameplay, but the way it was before was "Oh you missed a shot? Guess what, youre screwed. Now please wait patiently for the boss to slowly walk towards your inevitable defeat." And with no way to reset the trial to a checkpoint a loss can be incredibly irritating just to go back to the one spot you screwed up on. "Missed that vital canon shot at the very end?" Hope you enjoy 10 more minutes of doing the exact same thing again.

    Take that as you will. But remember, when youre asking random people to cooperate, you have to take into account that almost no one wants to step up and give out orders and some people just refuse to cooperate even if it means a win for the team. Were humans. Were a**holes by default.
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    The nerf is good. It was not end game content, just story content meant for all players (including casuals) to do. I'm sure you will get a few dumb comments like "This game is catering to casuals" or "Game is EZ mode nowzzz!" but honestly those comments are just dumb. There is plenty of hard mode content out there for people, and it really is not unreasonable to make content that is meant for everyone (including casuals) be able to be cleared by casuals.
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Before nerf, missing a DK wasn't an automatic failure, I had plenty of runs where we missed first one and still won, even had a run with only 3 dps where we missed a DK and still beat him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    There is plenty of hard mode content out there for people
    I'd like a list of this 'plenty of hard content'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Isn't that the notion of selfishness?
    Are you saying that the people who play bad, expecting to get carried, are not selfish?

    Also, newsflash: Everyone plays for fun. Did you honestly believe that people who want to play good are not having fun?)
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    Last edited by Elazu; 05-14-2015 at 09:52 PM.

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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    I'd like a list of this 'plenty of hard content'.
    Extreme primals, FCOB T13 and savage.
    Yep plenty, plenty indeed... (sarcasm).
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Extreme primals, FCOB T13 and savage.
    Yep plenty, plenty indeed... (sarcasm).
    As long as we're all pretending to be Lucrezia, none of these are hard and this game is nothing but casual content for casuals. I'm going back to Chess 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    As long as we're all pretending to be Lucrezia, none of these are hard and this game is nothing but casual content for casuals. I'm going back to Chess 2.
    I am not exactly sure how you meant it. But I don't have to be as skilled as Lucrezia's members to say that for me there is no other hard content than the content I have mentioned and even the primals are kinda balancing between normal and hard.

    If you find other content to be hard or challenging, that is good for you, but those are not my words.

    If you didn't meant it as a sarcasm, I am sorry.
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    Magis Luagis
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Extreme primals, FCOB T13 and savage.
    Yep plenty, plenty indeed... (sarcasm).
    Extreme primals is hard?

    Scratch that, read that as "now" when I assume you meant at launch. Even still, barring Titan... never found the EX primals to be more than "mildly challenging". Even Titan was more just "don't make a mistake" ala T7. If you mean now then yeah: Savage Coil and uhhh, certain Final Coils.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    As long as we're all pretending to be Lucrezia, none of these are hard and this game is nothing but casual content for casuals. I'm going back to Chess 2.
    Who's pretending to be Lucrezia? Your saying you need to be a top tier raid group to clear anything outside of those? lol.
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    Last edited by Magis; 05-14-2015 at 11:56 PM.

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    Nebulon Gumball
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    I think the nerf was dumb, but I understand the reason why we needed it. Too bad people won't get the pleasure of coordinating an attack like a tactical strike, but at least people can complete the story now.
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    Kirsa Ishtola
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyarel View Post
    The problem with the Trial was that you're asking a random group of people over the internet to cooperate. That usually almost never ends well.
    This is sad, but true. You'd figure FFXIV is supposed to be a game that requires teamwork (it being multi-player and all), but the truth is that most people don't want to co-operate with others. Never understood why that crowd even plays MMOs in the first place.

    I still don't think SoF really needed a nerf (after beating it without issues with my first DF group), but I guess if it'll help my friends catch up quicker for Heavensward, then it's cool.
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