Extremely agitated: question about T9

[Lilyanna]

As far as I'm aware, I've never seen a DRG pick up a Golem ... in DF you'd have 2 tanks, each tank takes one and then the WHM would pick up the other one ... so... if they were gonna change it, then they should have let you know ... Otherwise, MT, WHM, BRD pick up them up, as far as I'm aware anyway for the 1 tank strat. You didn't do anything wrong, so don't worry about it.

[juniglee]

As far as I'm aware, I've never seen a DRG pick up a Golem ... in DF you'd have 2 tanks, each tank takes one and then the WHM would pick up the other one ... so... if they were gonna change it, then they should have let you know ... Otherwise, MT, WHM, BRD pick up them up, as far as I'm aware anyway for the 1 tank strat. You didn't do anything wrong, so don't worry about it.

I thought it was standard for a DPS to pick up the Blue Golem? Even in a 2-tank strat. I always pick it up whenever I play DPS (BRD, NIN, DRG, BLM).

[LunaHoshino]

I thought it was standard for a DPS to pick up the Blue Golem? Even in a 2-tank strat. I always pick it up whenever I play DPS (BRD, NIN, DRG, BLM).

I've run T9 as DRG many times and have never been asked to tank the blue golem. Usually it's the BRD who gets red and WHM who gets blue, as I recall, and then when the green one dies, the tank goes and picks up blue.

If it's DF with two tanks, the two tanks should take green and blue and the BRD or WHM should get red.

[Eidolon]

I thought it was standard for a DPS to pick up the Blue Golem? Even in a 2-tank strat. I always pick it up whenever I play DPS (BRD, NIN, DRG, BLM).

So, basically, here's what it is:

In two tank strategy, your DPS doesnt' pick up an add. The PLD+WAR handle the one the PLD+DPS usually pick up.

In one Tank strategy, like you said, a DPS needs to be willing to pick it up. For the Red Golem, your prioty should be BRD > Any Melee > BLM > SMN. The reason SMN is lowest on this list is because they have the most delayed threatgen - they need to get full DoT's off to pull threat, and a higher-geared WHM will pull threat faster than they might be able to get them up.

BRD is the universally accepted picker-up #2. The reason for this is so they can silence the Blue golem after they recieve the new orders.

A DRG won't tank unless explicity told to. Switching a melee off green is just asking for 2x green golems.

[juniglee]

So, basically, here's what it is:

In two tank strategy, your DPS doesnt' pick up an add. The PLD+WAR handle the one the PLD+DPS usually pick up.

In one Tank strategy, like you said, a DPS needs to be willing to pick it up. For the Red Golem, your prioty should be BRD > Any Melee > BLM > SMN. The reason SMN is lowest on this list is because they have the most delayed threatgen - they need to get full DoT's off to pull threat, and a higher-geared WHM will pull threat faster than they might be able to get them up.

BRD is the universally accepted picker-up #2. The reason for this is so they can silence the Blue golem after they recieve the new orders.

A DRG won't tank unless explicity told to. Switching a melee off green is just asking for 2x green golems.

Seems I forgot my standard is the JP standard. That said, most of the farm parties I used to join used to do the North tank/spread strat (JP's do the mid tank/sprint method), so I assumed it was the same in the NA/EU servers as well.

For the two tank strats, on spawn, the tanks pick up the Green and Red respectively, and the last one is picked up by a DPS. Blue is always the first to die. Then when they switch colors, it's in priority of Blue > Green > Red. Isn't this how it usually is?

[Eidolon]

For the two tank strats, on spawn, the tanks pick up the Green and Red respectively, and the last one is picked up by a DPS. Blue is always the first to die. Then when they switch colors, it's in priority of Blue > Green > Red. Isn't this how it usually is?

Hmn....

It's been a while since I used that strategy. The reason we used to do it that way is on the off chance we could kill green after the orders were given to switch (Namely, that it would sometimes switch the Green one to the one we were DPS'ign - allowing us to kill it right away...)

Well, I think the way you mentioned was pre-2.3... I could be wrong though. And keep in mind, I speak for myself - this is the strategy I see the most used nowadays.

[LunaHoshino]

For the two tank strats, on spawn, the tanks pick up the Green and Red respectively, and the last one is picked up by a DPS. Blue is always the first to die. Then when they switch colors, it's in priority of Blue > Green > Red. Isn't this how it usually is?

In the NA servers these days, the priority is Green > Blue > Red. DPS is generally high enough that Green goes down long before the switch order is given, making sure that there is only ever one Green golem to deal with. This has been the strategy since at least 2.4, since that was when my FC started working on it.

[juniglee]

In the NA servers these days, the priority is Green > Blue > Red. DPS is generally high enough that Green goes down long before the switch order is given, making sure that there is only ever one Green golem to deal with. This has been the strategy since at least 2.4, since that was when my FC started working on it.

Cool. Good to know. Thanks for the insight!

[LunaHoshino]

Cool. Good to know. Thanks for the insight!

I'm honestly a little surprised to hear that it's done differently on JP servers! The logic behind killing the Green one first is to prevent Demolish from occurring after the switch happens and the second Green pops up. How do you guys deal with Demolish? I didn't think it could be stunned or silenced (in fact, I know it can't be stunned because I have made desperate stun attempts in botched runs where we got two Greens).

[nuyu11]

Sorry to hear that, I also got kicked out from T9 last month from my first run.

Snip.

Masamune also use this strategy.