Extremely agitated: question about T9

[h0tNstilettos]

So I just went to do T9 for the first time via DF. I had checked out a video beforehand, but it was so much to remember that I knew it would have to be learned bit by bit as there was no way to remember every mechanic from every phase in one go. Also, keep in mind I'm an i118 DRG for this fight with i130 weapon.

Once in I had made it clear it was my first time and that I need to learn, though they probably knew since I watched cutscene, but just to re-iterate. Someone even said "Let's run it and see how it goes." I was expecting to forget something and die quick, but to my surprise I didn't. Everything went smoothly. I didn't die or even get hit except by anything you have no choice to get hit by like when we stack in the middle to absorb damage from that one attack. So then we get to the golem phase. I was not assigned to be a tank for any of the golems. I was told to kill green golem first, then blue, then red, which I already knew from video. So golems spawn, and since I'm not assigned to tank any I go to attack the green one with others, and no color swap had occurred yet during any of this. Green one is almost dead and all of a sudden a large golem comes up on us from behind, so I knew someone messed up or at least I think it was someone else and not me because I had never touched any other golem except green, and it was blue and red that merged into the super golem. So half the party is dead with only myself and a couple others from green last ones alive.

So here we are ready to go again. Everyone is just standing there not saying anything, then all of a sudden the duty ends and says I was dismissed. Needless to say I was angry considering how good I did for a first attempt and I didn't think I did anything wrong. My assumption was that because I was the only one that had mentioned being new that they just assumed I was the one that messed up without actually seeing who messed up. Afterwards I searched characters on Lodestone in hopes that one of them would be from Leviathan so I could contact them and find out why I was kicked, but it turned out about 5 or 6 of them were from the same FC on Behemoth server, which I won't name due to naming and shaming rule, while other 1 or 2 were from different FCs and servers.

So here I am asking those experienced: Did I do something wrong? I did exactly as I mentioned. Or do you think they mistakenly assumed it was me that messed up?

[Adire]

You fell victim to biased friends abusing their voting power. Nothing new there, happens to me and to people I see a lot.

Doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me. If they wanted you to tank badly enough to kick you when you didn't tank, they should have spoke up in the beginning and told you to tank.

Crappy people will be crappy people though.

[StrejdaTom]

Althought I and other people here usually tell people to tell their party that they are new, I would suggest not saying anything from now on. As long as you are aknowledged with the fight, it is better to act like you absolutely know what do to.

Aand nope, I do not think you did anything wrong, maybe low DPS but that really does not matter in that case.

[Anapingofness]

I would suggest not saying anything from now on.

I can't get behind that advice (even you said you urge new players to say that they're new! that shouldn't change!). I understand that people do not want to be harassed but there are many people out there, like myself, who would prefer to know who exactly is new- especially for a fight like t9. I always try to be helpful and offer advice to new players but if nobody speaks up it makes things difficult for me as well.

OP- you did nothing wrong. The onus is on that group and they should be ashamed for kicking you.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

People have this pack mentality, if someone starts a vote kick, the others might follow, even if you weren't the issue. =/ I'm sorry for having such a rude first experience but sadly, you'll find that kind of people often as you venture yourself in that content. That "mistake" was nothing you couldn't fix.

[Lilyanna]

As far as I'm aware, I've never seen a DRG pick up a Golem ... in DF you'd have 2 tanks, each tank takes one and then the WHM would pick up the other one ... so... if they were gonna change it, then they should have let you know ... Otherwise, MT, WHM, BRD pick up them up, as far as I'm aware anyway for the 1 tank strat. You didn't do anything wrong, so don't worry about it.

[juniglee]

As far as I'm aware, I've never seen a DRG pick up a Golem ... in DF you'd have 2 tanks, each tank takes one and then the WHM would pick up the other one ... so... if they were gonna change it, then they should have let you know ... Otherwise, MT, WHM, BRD pick up them up, as far as I'm aware anyway for the 1 tank strat. You didn't do anything wrong, so don't worry about it.

I thought it was standard for a DPS to pick up the Blue Golem? Even in a 2-tank strat. I always pick it up whenever I play DPS (BRD, NIN, DRG, BLM).

[LunaHoshino]

I thought it was standard for a DPS to pick up the Blue Golem? Even in a 2-tank strat. I always pick it up whenever I play DPS (BRD, NIN, DRG, BLM).

I've run T9 as DRG many times and have never been asked to tank the blue golem. Usually it's the BRD who gets red and WHM who gets blue, as I recall, and then when the green one dies, the tank goes and picks up blue.

If it's DF with two tanks, the two tanks should take green and blue and the BRD or WHM should get red.

[Eidolon]

I thought it was standard for a DPS to pick up the Blue Golem? Even in a 2-tank strat. I always pick it up whenever I play DPS (BRD, NIN, DRG, BLM).

So, basically, here's what it is:

In two tank strategy, your DPS doesnt' pick up an add. The PLD+WAR handle the one the PLD+DPS usually pick up.

In one Tank strategy, like you said, a DPS needs to be willing to pick it up. For the Red Golem, your prioty should be BRD > Any Melee > BLM > SMN. The reason SMN is lowest on this list is because they have the most delayed threatgen - they need to get full DoT's off to pull threat, and a higher-geared WHM will pull threat faster than they might be able to get them up.

BRD is the universally accepted picker-up #2. The reason for this is so they can silence the Blue golem after they recieve the new orders.

A DRG won't tank unless explicity told to. Switching a melee off green is just asking for 2x green golems.

[juniglee]

So, basically, here's what it is:

In two tank strategy, your DPS doesnt' pick up an add. The PLD+WAR handle the one the PLD+DPS usually pick up.

In one Tank strategy, like you said, a DPS needs to be willing to pick it up. For the Red Golem, your prioty should be BRD > Any Melee > BLM > SMN. The reason SMN is lowest on this list is because they have the most delayed threatgen - they need to get full DoT's off to pull threat, and a higher-geared WHM will pull threat faster than they might be able to get them up.

BRD is the universally accepted picker-up #2. The reason for this is so they can silence the Blue golem after they recieve the new orders.

A DRG won't tank unless explicity told to. Switching a melee off green is just asking for 2x green golems.

Seems I forgot my standard is the JP standard. That said, most of the farm parties I used to join used to do the North tank/spread strat (JP's do the mid tank/sprint method), so I assumed it was the same in the NA/EU servers as well.

For the two tank strats, on spawn, the tanks pick up the Green and Red respectively, and the last one is picked up by a DPS. Blue is always the first to die. Then when they switch colors, it's in priority of Blue > Green > Red. Isn't this how it usually is?