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    Asuka Kiyomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    Personally I'm okay with them nerfing content if it is needed to progress the main story, such as with Steps of Faith. Non required content such as the Coils, EX Primals and CT should not be nerfed ever in my mind.
    the thing is did it need a nerf a slight nerf to visap hp ok but look at the mechanics

    The boss has a lot of HP answer - cannons
    Lots of adds - cannons
    Dps is to low- CANNONS (and dragon killers)

    i went into a lot of SoF just to help people and once they wiped once and know what to do with the cannons and towers they won, it wasn't due to bad dps or being over whelmed by adds it was learning the mechanics and thats why i think a lot of people are annoyed with SE because a mechanic driven fight can now be ignored if you dps the boss hard enough :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Nerfing old content is good (2-3 main patches old).
    nerfing actual content before the next main patch is sad.

    Lets not forget this is the 'FINAL BOSS' of FFXIV 2.x, and there is currently no content after him, so nerving him -now- seems fruitless. :c

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    What people fail to realize is that SE has logs from JP NA and EU for every trial, duty, dungeon and raid and nerf content according to what the numbers say.
    If they overture an instance and the numbers say it's over tuned it will be nerfed regardless of how long it's been out.
    this is true in most aspects but for the SoF i beleave they made it nerved for the smallest 'wont even try' groups so 'everyone' can get into heavenward,, they wouldn't of released the fight to begin with if they didn't think the masses would win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    the thing is did it need a nerf a slight nerf to visap hp ok but look at the mechanics

    The boss has a lot of HP answer - cannons
    Lots of adds - cannons
    Dps is to low- CANNONS (and dragon killers)

    i went into a lot of SoF just to help people and once they wiped once and know what to do with the cannons and towers they won, it wasn't due to bad dps or being over whelmed by adds it was learning the mechanics and thats why i think a lot of people are annoyed with SE because a mechanic driven fight can now be ignored if you dps the boss hard enough :/
    That was already the case. I completed SoF with a PF group with only using one DK and before the final snare. I also am of the belief that such a mechanic driven fight has no place in the main story line. Such fights should be optional content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    I also am of the belief that such a mechanic driven fight has no place in the main story line. Such fights should be optional content.
    It HAD to be an MSQ!
    No other action but helping kill the Dravanian Invasion Horde at the bridge was going to make the Holy See allow us to enter their realm.
    It is the outcome of that battle which changes their minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    It HAD to be an MSQ!
    No other action but helping kill the Dravanian Invasion Horde at the bridge was going to make the Holy See allow us to enter their realm.
    It is the outcome of that battle which changes their minds.
    That didn't have to be MSQ. That could have been the start of Heavensward through a different writing method, and MSQ could have concluded without any ties to Corethas whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    That was already the case. I completed SoF with a PF group with only using one DK and before the final snare. I also am of the belief that such a mechanic driven fight has no place in the main story line. Such fights should be optional content.
    Not everything should be able to be completed by bashing your weapon against it over and over until you win. Sometimes you need to be able to hear, feel, and think. I'm pretty sure I've heard that advice somewhere before...
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    Evidently, the way forward is to bring out content super easy so there is never a need to nerf anything.

    The staggered nerfing/buffing system is proven way to run a MMO, more hardcore players get their day, and the casuals there own, everyone is happy. What difficulty someone else is clearing it at months later should really not be anyone's concern, why would anyone who completed it so long ago really care?

    There is just over a month before FCOB is obsolete, many casuals will want to complete that story before going into heavenward. With the main point being on the story, why deny so many players the opportunity? Its not like the gear is worth anything anymore, it's all just the experience.

    MMOs are for fun, the system is a balanced one which brings the most fun to the most people.
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