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    This would be a pretty cool idea to be honest.

    You often find that in the DF you have fresh people joining raids etc that are learning content at different rates, so not only are they trying to get used to the boss mechanics but they're adapting their play-styles to the others in the party. Something like this could probably give groups who are close to completing the extra bit they need to clear.

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    I only see this as being abused by groups to "No-Life" content such as coil. The timers exist for a reason.
    Which is honestly the only thing you need the full timer for anyway. If over an hour has passed and you STILL haven't cleared, perhaps a break is in order.
    I fail to see how giving players more attempts to clear content is an abuse of anything to be honest, similar systems have already existed in games like WoW for years with very little issues.

    Right now if players want they're able to just re-queue instances anyway, but instead of having the same group / chance they did before they'll essentially lose the progress they made with the previous group only to start all over again with an entire new set of people, sometimes it's a positive but usually not.

    As long as players are able to leave out of the instance as they wish once the time is over something like this seems like it would be a win/win for all.

    Piggybacking on this it'd also be nice to add a queue with current group option to instances as well, a feature WoW actually has. Sometimes you end up with a cross server group that's pretty chill and it'd be nice to run more with them instead of just leaving the instance and never seeing any of them again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    I fail to see how giving players more attempts to clear content is an abuse of anything to be honest.
    They why have timers at all? They exist for a reason. The content was designed to be done within this amount of time.
    It's also to help keep the queues moving.
    Sure it sucks you can't group with the same people you worked well with, but by "freeing up" your group and requeuing normally, you end up with different people this time who have been waiting in the queue for a chance at the same thing. Without this, with the option to just take as long as you want, the queues move slower as there's less "movement" in the queue.
    Think of it like a restaurant. After a certain point, waiters will get rather passive-aggressively insistent that you pay your bill and leave because they need the table. The game's instance server is very similar.
    Perpetual instancing was a thing in a few very, very early MMOs, but it turned out to be troublesome having people never leaving the instance servers, so timers are now standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Perpetual instancing was a thing in a few very, very early MMOs, but it turned out to be troublesome having people never leaving the instance servers, so timers are now standard.
    There would still be limitation, for instance, one vote-extend per instance for .x the initial duration. Issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    Piggybacking on this it'd also be nice to add a queue with current group option to instances as well, a feature WoW actually has. Sometimes you end up with a cross server group that's pretty chill and it'd be nice to run more with them instead of just leaving the instance and never seeing any of them again.
    This would probably be an alternate but just as effective solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saviorlito View Post
    This would probably be an alternate but just as effective solution.
    Not a bad solution, but not one we'll see any time soon as the Data Centers are currently a huge mess.
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